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i was working on this leak on the front differential where the idler arm pivots, and the books calls for a BEARING WASHERS,that was a non-existent part on my pinz, there was only a NYLON WASHERS and a real thin metal washer, is there a way that this pinz came with no BEARING WASHERS?? i was hoping to find residues of a bearing washer but there is none, just nylon washers top n bottom,, diagram is GROUP 5-05 i have a 1985 pinz and i dont know if the leave the bearings out for this year or ?????? thanks!

Hi waterdog

let us refer to a picture from the manufacturer

from http://www.puch.at/en/spare-parts/pinzg ... ng-damper/

here you find items 10 and 22 called brag link; sav has these items as idler arm.

they are held together by scew 11 and nut 12. The bearing washers 18 are designed to carry the load , and to adjust the clearance beween these arms and the bearing sleeves 21 they use washers 19 available in different thickness. (only visible in german ...)

EINST.SCHEIBE 40/25.5/0.3 Artikel-Nr 7581430031
EINST.SCHEIBE 40/25.5/0.4 Artikel-Nr 7581430041
EINST.SCHEIBE 40/25.5/0.5 Artikel-Nr 7581430051

they are 0.3, 0.4 and 0.5 mm thick. You can have combinations of rhese washers if needed, but they all are solid metal.

Hope that helps

If it's to eliminate the up/down movement of the arm, yes, you adjust with shim washers. I believe I've still got a few, as I had to buy them in a bulk pack of a dozen or so. I searched high and low all over the city, but nobody uses shim washers anymore. I got them from some distributor out of Chicago.

If you think it's best, I can search to see if I've still got them and could mail you some. But of course, it's a long way...

It's not any closer, either, but McMaster-Carr has shim washers that might fit: http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-shims/=zgv8pa

Haflinger translation calls them bearing washers too
I thought I was missing something but it is either just the translation for shim or they are "bearing" the weight as previously stated by Hotzenplotz

Thank you very much folks, now i got it clear,!!! I though it was some kind of METAL BEARING OR ROLLER,,, washers i can get them custom made same material like the originals,,,,thanks again!!!

TechMOGogy wrote:Haflinger translation calls them bearing washers too
I thought I was missing something but it is either just the translation for shim or they are "bearing" the weight as previously stated by Hotzenplotz

the top shim is bearing the weight of all moving parts in the steering mechanism...
have a small amount of grease between the shims

waterdog wrote:Thank you very much folks, now i got it clear,!!! I though it was some kind of METAL BEARING OR ROLLER,,, washers i can get them custom made same material like the originals,,,,thanks again!!!

Not sure what size you need (as I did my Hafi vs Pinz) but try these guys
Fast shipping and all sizes vs trying to make them
https://www.thebearingcompany.co.uk/sea ... rch=Search

Hotzenplotz wrote:the top shim is bearing the weight of all moving parts in the steering mechanism...
have a small amount of grease between the shims

I don't think this is true, or at least it's not how I would describe it.

There is no particular "weight" being borne. The idler arm simply swivels as the steering moves side-to-side. But the tie rods connected to it are not mounted in the same plane. The steering input is higher, and the hubs are lower. Because of this height difference, any tie rod movement (whenever you turn the steering wheel, the axles move up and down, or the tires turn side-to-side) also imparts a slight up/down movement on the idler arm. The shim washers are used to adjust and minimize this up/down movement yet still allow the idler arm to swivel side-to-side.

If the shims wear out, you hear a clunk noise when you hit a bump as the idler arm moves up and down.

We agree on the grease.

correct, that is how i found out, i heard a clunk noise on bumps and found the leak , now replacing all tie rod ends, o-rings and washers...hope i can stop the leak and noises.....

Replacing o rings and washer will not be enough, I'm afraid.

There is a large o ring behind the RELAY SHAFT HOUSING Art-Nr 7101433151
if you find oil there you must find the source, and I guess you will have a leaking shaft seal ring behind the speedometer pinion.

sooo. where is the lubrication coming from for this speedo gear????

Doesn't the front diff do that Speaking about 091.02.05 (which is where my leak is)

in the picture group 03-15, the part #4 is not lubricated????

waterdog wrote:sooo. where is the lubrication coming from for this speedo gear????

speedo gear takes a little grease when assembled, and is not connected to the oil of the diff