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Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:10 am
by m9184
Dear folks,
I have a doubt on my pinzgauer alignment in the front axle / tyres.
As you can see from the picture attached , I notice that the driver side tyre is leaning towards inside more than the other side ..
I have checked the car down and haven't seen any sign of wear or clear issue .. plus the alignment shop did alignment and he couldn't see any issue..
Appreciate your expert advice please
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Thanks and best regards
Re: Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:09 am
by rmel
When driving FORWARD, your tires should show a visible amount of POSITIVE camber.
However, driving in the REVERSE direction, the camber will go negative.
What you are showing is a negative camber, if that was the result of driving forward
then your "Toe" is incorrect and needs to be corrected. Otherwise, drive forward
and take a second look. A certain degree of Toe-in is necessary for driving stability.
But, too much in either direction will wear out your tires on the outer edge. Check
for tire wear, and if you see wear on the outside edge you have a pos camber, if on
the inner edge then a neg camber. Wear should be very slight and on the outer edge.
And if your camber is negative you also lose about 1" to 2" of frontal clearance.
More here:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9515&p=79150&hilit=toe+in#p70713
Re: Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:39 am
by Tjerk
It is the other way around...
Re: Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:49 am
by Tjerk
It is the other way around...
https://ibb.co/QQcjmKt
Re: Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:16 am
by rmel
Oops!! Yup I meant POSITIVE as normal when driving forward, the notes are correct.
I guess I had a Dyslexic moment
I CORRECTED that to avoid confusion.
Re: Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:53 am
by m9184
rmel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:09 am
When driving FORWARD, your tires should show a visible amount of POSITIVE camber.
However, driving in the REVERSE direction, the camber will go negative.
What you are showing is a negative camber, if that was the result of driving forward
then your "Toe" is incorrect and needs to be corrected. Otherwise, drive forward
and take a second look. A certain degree of Toe-in is necessary for driving stability.
But, too much in either direction will wear out your tires on the outer edge. Check
for tire wear, and if you see wear on the outside edge you have a pos camber, if on
the inner edge then a neg camber. Wear should be very slight and on the outer edge.
And if your camber is negative you also lose about 1" to 2" of frontal clearance.
More here:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9515&p=79150&hilit=toe+in#p70713
thanks for your great info and support, my next challenge is to find a mechanic who can understand and act upon your advise,, as im not
do you have any youtube vidoe illustrating the same please?
thanks again
Re: Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:54 am
by m9184
Re: Alignment of front axle/tyres on my 712 pinzgauer
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:42 am
by David Dunn
I'd go back and check the front for wear... the upper spring cradle, bottom spring cup and the overall measurement of both front springs ( possible fatigue) , and the bottom cup pins. Unlikely, but sometime in the past, a pin was replaced with a different size or pin indented into a cup. Also, jack the front up and check for wear in the kingpins/bushings by push/pulling the wheels in and out at the top/bottom. If you don't see the obvious, check the unlikely.