biggest tire size?
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Re: biggest tire size?
The UK Military Pinzes were fitted with 8.25-16 Michelin XZLs ( even the 710/12s...if they actually kept any ). I have them on my 716.
I personally think they are a bit too tall .
I personally think they are a bit too tall .
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Stuart - With you on the width thing - I'm running 285/75/16s on my comp Landy and they are a big tyre compared with the stock Pinz tyres, hence the 255/85/16 discussion.
You used to be able to buy 950/33/16s here (in Simex and similar) but aint seen them for a while....
David - interesting - what is the equivalent modern size, any idea? Guess these would also be like hens teeth anyway....
You used to be able to buy 950/33/16s here (in Simex and similar) but aint seen them for a while....
David - interesting - what is the equivalent modern size, any idea? Guess these would also be like hens teeth anyway....
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Re: biggest tire size?
I don't know of a new designation for the 8.25s, but the 9.00-16s are 255/100-16 ( I was trying to locate these for my 101 Vampire a few years back).
Nigel would probably have a better idea to what you have available over there.
A 265 would probably suit you fine unless you're where you can do a lot of high speed driving. If you do mostly driving in rolling hills, the 265 would be even better.
Nigel would probably have a better idea to what you have available over there.
A 265 would probably suit you fine unless you're where you can do a lot of high speed driving. If you do mostly driving in rolling hills, the 265 would be even better.
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Re: biggest tire size?
On 710 and 712 I always fit 265/75/16 these give the same rolling dia. as the origional Maloyas, on 716 and 718, P80 and P90, 235/85/16 and on P93s 285/75/16. My personal preference is BFG mud terrain, these were factory fit on the last Pinzgauers produced and I find them the best compromise tyre. ( though not the cheapest )
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Re: biggest tire size?
Hi Nigel,
I had the 265/75 on my 710, and later the 255/85 on my 712. Both were good fit for the applications, though there is only limited type of tires in the 255/85.
Though ATL had published the BF Goodriches in their lit, the MoD Pinzes had XZL 8.25s ( from what I'd seen) and the 718s that came out of our GL also had 8.25s. One of my old 710/12 manuals had listed the 8.25s for the 710/12 for UK use, but imo the tires are way too tall for the Gassers.... and the diesels for that matter too.
My preference are the 255/85 over the 285/75 for the most part, same diameter, and the 255s can easily air down to the 285 footprint without as much fear of debeading ( on the same size rim). The narrower tire mean less road resistence, and easier slow speed steering for the 710/12.
I might do some scounging for a set of 235s to see how the 716 likes them "on road".... I know the people I off road with won't... they're already peeved when I idle up or down a hill ... the shorter tires would only make it worse.
I had the 265/75 on my 710, and later the 255/85 on my 712. Both were good fit for the applications, though there is only limited type of tires in the 255/85.
Though ATL had published the BF Goodriches in their lit, the MoD Pinzes had XZL 8.25s ( from what I'd seen) and the 718s that came out of our GL also had 8.25s. One of my old 710/12 manuals had listed the 8.25s for the 710/12 for UK use, but imo the tires are way too tall for the Gassers.... and the diesels for that matter too.
My preference are the 255/85 over the 285/75 for the most part, same diameter, and the 255s can easily air down to the 285 footprint without as much fear of debeading ( on the same size rim). The narrower tire mean less road resistence, and easier slow speed steering for the 710/12.
I might do some scounging for a set of 235s to see how the 716 likes them "on road".... I know the people I off road with won't... they're already peeved when I idle up or down a hill ... the shorter tires would only make it worse.
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Re: biggest tire size?
Hi David.
I've had a few ex Swedish 716s and some 718 fire engines through my shop and these were all fitted with 235/85/16s, and they all drove very well on them. My own P93 716 came fitted with 825/16 michelin XZLs but after fitting the 3litre BMW turbo diesel all it did was spin the rear wheels they were just too narrow to put the power down on the road. I've since changed to 285/75/16 BFG Mud Terrains on 7Jx16 rims and it behaves much better. I agree that the petrol models suit the 255/85/16s but the choice of tyre is very limited in that size.
Nigel.
I've had a few ex Swedish 716s and some 718 fire engines through my shop and these were all fitted with 235/85/16s, and they all drove very well on them. My own P93 716 came fitted with 825/16 michelin XZLs but after fitting the 3litre BMW turbo diesel all it did was spin the rear wheels they were just too narrow to put the power down on the road. I've since changed to 285/75/16 BFG Mud Terrains on 7Jx16 rims and it behaves much better. I agree that the petrol models suit the 255/85/16s but the choice of tyre is very limited in that size.
Nigel.
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Gee Nigel, I'd have never taken you for a lead footed Yank!pinzmeister-uk wrote:Hi David.
..... My own P93 716 came fitted with 825/16 michelin XZLs but after fitting the 3litre BMW turbo diesel all it did was spin the rear wheels they were just too narrow to put the power down on the road. I've since changed to 285/75/16 BFG Mud Terrains on 7Jx16 rims and it behaves much better....Nigel.
My Swedish 716 had Cooper MT 255/86-16s at the corners, and a Semperit 225/75-17.5 as a spare ! Figure how that made it from Austria to Sweden..
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Re: biggest tire size?
After having had a couple of petrol Pinnies, when I rebuilt the ex-MOD 716 I decided for once it would be nice to have a bit more power than I needed rather than not quite enough, and not being a great fan of the 2.4 VW I considered the BMW to be the best option, it proved itself last weekend towing a dead Daimler Dingo back from a show, it didn't even notice it was on the back.
Re: biggest tire size?
We do a lot of Trophy and Trips in Europe and Africa with Petrol Pinzgauers and the best tire size is the 255/85 R 16. BFG MT KM1 or KM 2.
The Michelin 255/100 XZL is much too tall. The Michelin 8.25 XZL is a bit higher than the 255/85 but narrow and expensive but very reliable on stony drive.
255/85 R 16 and 8.25 R16 do have the permition from SDP since many years to be used on 710/712.
For serious trophy in wet/muddy conditions there is Interco LTB 08. Narrow Swamper in 34x10,5 R 16.
In Europe really hard to get at the moment.
Simex / Silverstone with the Extreme Trekker Profile has the best traction in Mud but in 33" too small and in 35" too big - also hard to get at the moment.
Lorenz
The Michelin 255/100 XZL is much too tall. The Michelin 8.25 XZL is a bit higher than the 255/85 but narrow and expensive but very reliable on stony drive.
255/85 R 16 and 8.25 R16 do have the permition from SDP since many years to be used on 710/712.
For serious trophy in wet/muddy conditions there is Interco LTB 08. Narrow Swamper in 34x10,5 R 16.
In Europe really hard to get at the moment.
Simex / Silverstone with the Extreme Trekker Profile has the best traction in Mud but in 33" too small and in 35" too big - also hard to get at the moment.
Lorenz