Coil spring spacers?

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Coil spring spacers?

Post by audiocontr » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:03 pm

Soooo im pretty confident my front springs are shot. The nose dips down significantly ever since a wicked jump. :twisted:

EI sells replacement springs for a little over $300 and I've been contemplating going this route, but what about spring spacers? Am i just asking for trouble by shoving a couple spacers into each front spring? Im 90% on road driving.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by Gozar » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:50 pm

In my inexpert opinion - this has bad idea written all over it.

If your springs are hammered that bad, it's going to change the handling characteristics of the vehicle.
What about finding a decent pair of used springs?

Also, it probably doesn't matter if only 10% of your time is off-highway - if you are jumping it during that 10%. :wink:

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Post by M Wehrman » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:11 pm

Well..... Perhaps 4x4 Pinz,Brad,and Man on a mule can post a pic of another approach... 8)
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Post by audiocontr » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:33 pm

M Wehrman wrote:Well..... Perhaps 4x4 Pinz,Brad,and Man on a mule can post a pic of another approach... 8)
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Post by TechMOGogy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:16 pm

M Wehrman wrote:Well..... Perhaps 4x4 Pinz,Brad,and Man on a mule can post a pic of another approach... 8)
Mark
So you have more sets still?
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7802&hilit=springs

also, viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2627&hilit=springs
In this 2nd link if you go through it user, springhill, talks about the SAV springs having thicker coils than the originals - which is interesting.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by audiocontr » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:07 pm

Someone sent me a PM many moons ago about a set and i accidentally deleted the PM before i could respond. Wish i could remember who sent it.
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Post by M Wehrman » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:02 pm

Well that spring idea did not work out as well as I had hoped.But,for a leveling option,spacers mounted above the springs. I don'h have any pics as I don't have a Pinz anymore.Maybe the boys above can supply some!
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Post by pcolette » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:09 pm

These are available: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8102 from the other Paul in Wisconsin.
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Post by audiocontr » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:30 pm

Ahh that's right. Little nervous of custom made springs. Hmm
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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by audiocontr » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:11 pm

Im liking the spacer above the spring idea. has anyone done such a thing? Any idea of diameter required?
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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by M Wehrman » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:51 pm

This idea came from Man on a mule. using a piece of round stock, appx 1.5" dia. cut to length(more info further along). Next I used some small wheel studs and ground the flange end to match the shape of the little tit on the spring cap. Back to the slug,i drilled and tapped the middle to accept the stud. Next grind and shape one end of the slug to fit the shape of the of the spring cap so it sits flat inside the cap and somewhat snug over the "tit". FLAT is the key word here. Now the lift recipe is the length of the slug is 1/2 of desired lift, a 1" slug for example will lift the ft almost 2". Once the slug is shaped to the inside of the spring cap,cut excess stud threads so that it resembles the height of original tit and does not bottom thru the slug. This has been done to 3 trucks, oldest has been running for over 4 yrs now. Maybe I can draw a picture and post it,but I am challenged in those matters.
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Note this will only level a truck and get proper tire angle,it does not give more travel than you had before.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by Jimm391730 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:57 pm

Or just get the longer length pin that fits into the top of the spring cup... assuming the length you need is available, but the factory had an assortment of pin lengths defined for just such a purpose.

No "modifications" needed, just change the pin to a longer version.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by audiocontr » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:28 pm

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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by Jimm391730 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:24 pm

I typed without checking -- the pin on the BOTTOM of the spring, #19 in this image.

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Re: Coil spring spacers?

Post by audiocontr » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:19 am

Interesting!

Mark, is this the same place you described? I'm a bit unclear where your mod is placed.

What's the diameter and thread of the base of the pin? Couldn't I use a threaded coupler to accept the stock pin and chop off the head of an appropriate bolt for the other side? Place the three pieces back into the place of 19?
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