rims and tires

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Hotzenplotz
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Re: rims and tires

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the proof of the pudding ...

give it a try with the spare wheel :-)
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Re: rims and tires

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Might just do that
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just one caveat:

the pinz rims are designed for nuts with a conical seat; ford rims have sightly larger holes, and a flat seat.
some folks in germany modified existing nuts ; i had bespoke ones made.

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Please try the spare tire out on the Pinz and take a couple of pictures - I've seen the rims come up occasionally for sale as take-offs and I think as the number of these vans increase in the USA we will soon have a source of replacement rims.

Also - I thought the Pinzgauer lug nut seats were "ball" type and not conical? Would make modifying them to work with the original nuts much trickier...

There also are aluminum ones as well - but are pretty ugly in my opinion...

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Pinz lugnuts are "ball" type, not conical. See the sticky post at the top of this forum by Scott.
http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/v ... =15&t=8253
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The Ford Transit 150/250 rims are 16 x 6.5" - here is a picture with the plastic cover that is included on the work van versions:

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GRCameron wrote:Pinz lugnuts are "ball" type, not conical. See the sticky post at the top of this forum by Scott.
http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/v ... =15&t=8253
apologies for the misinfo; I have got rid of them three years ago....
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ya, just out of curiosity I'm going to bring the Pinz to work and try a rim...will post results and pics.
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that is a close up pic I took whilst testing. it uses the original Pinz wheel nuts...

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specs: 6,5J x 16 x 60, YC15-DE for Ford Transit 2000 to 2006 FORD-PART-NUMBER: 4138552
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Great idea to have a spare set of rims with other tires mounted. I have a second set of rims for my town car with studded snow tires for winter. Rather than switch the tires on the rims I switch the entire set for snow/ice conditions. The price would be an asset.
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Can you put a regular tire on a stock Pinz 710M rim? If so what's the largest size you can put on that won't rub?
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The rims are standard 16 inch size - only they are somewhat narrow (6.5 inches I think?) and don't have a "safety bead" so its a bit easy for the tire to pop off the rim at low tire pressure and side loads (especially on the front). Some tires are listed as being designed for a minimum of 7 inch rims - but that isn't actually a problem with the slightly narrow pinz rims.

I think the best/maximum tire that works well is 255/85-16 but some people have used 285/75-16 which have the same overall diameter but are wider. They are heavy and with the swing axles the wider size doesn't work so well.

If you want real hardcore off-road tires there is a bias ply super swamper by interco which is taller and narrower (9x34) that looks very good - just don't use them on the highway.

Michelin makes a 8.25/100-16 tire which is almost 35 inches - they are used on some of the diesel pinzgauers and look great on them. Very hard to find although I have seem some listed on Canadian military surplus sites as apparently they are used on their G-wagons.
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Thanks for the info!
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stiffler4444 wrote:ya, just out of curiosity I'm going to bring the Pinz to work and try a rim...will post results and pics.
Any news? Would love to find out and see a photo or two....
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Re: rims and tires

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Haf-e wrote:
stiffler4444 wrote:ya, just out of curiosity I'm going to bring the Pinz to work and try a rim...will post results and pics.
Any news? Would love to find out and see a photo or two....
Sorry, the van has been you getting upgrades. Should have it back by Monday of next week.
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