Rubbing strip removal

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namtinker
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Rubbing strip removal

Post by namtinker » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:52 pm

So how do I remove the wood side rubbing strips?
Some unscrew, some just turn. This makes me think there are " not so captive" nuts turning on the inside. Probably corroded to heck.
Is there a way to access the backside?

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pcolette
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by pcolette » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:58 pm

The factory used rivet nuts to fasten the side rails to. Unfortunately over time they rust and loosen as you have found. The nuts are not accessible. I've found that sometimes driving a wood shim between the rail and the body as you turn the bolt works. Otherwise I just drill off the head of the bolt and then drill out the rivet nut. You'll need a rivet nut setter to replace them. Setting tools and rivet nuts are available from www.mcmaster.com as well as many other sources.
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by Jimm391730 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:03 pm

Is there a way to access the backside?
In a word, no. The "backside" is the inside of a square tubing. Drill the heads off the screws that are frozen; if they spin, wedge a screwdriver under the rubrail to create enough friction to drill the head off. Then pull the rail off the remnants of the screws and cut the screw off flush, then punch the rivnut into the hollow where they will stay. Replace the rivnut(s) and use antiseize on new stainless screws. Trust me, this is worth the work - you'll never have a problem with these again.
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by Jimm391730 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:04 pm

Wow, Paul, great minds think alike (or at least have had the same problem!).
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by whitesik » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:03 am

I just did this last week. Since I am replacing my rub rail and did not need to preserve the old ones, I found it easier to drill through the wood perpendicular to the machine screw and through the screw. This was much faster than drilling the head that kept spinning.
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namtinker
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by namtinker » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:14 am

Thanks guys. I'll do this on all of them.
They seem to have used the same method on the access panels.

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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by stiffler4444 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:18 am

I was reading this thread, so of course, out of curiosity, I thought I'd try and remove my rub rails for the first time. I should have taken pics for the "A ha" thread, because to my shock the screws turned so easily I thought they might have been loose. And not just one. All of them. I had the rails off in 5 minutes flat. Sorry, not trying to piss on anyone who have had headaches with this, I'm just completely amazed that they came off easily. No rust under there to say the least, which was my main curiosity.
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63rover
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by 63rover » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:45 am

Lucky bugger! :? It took 2 hrs to get mine off the first time! :shock: Then half a day to make new ones out of oak and to tung oil them. Half a day surface rust repair and threaded insert replacement... Now they come off as part of regular maintenance to check the paint underneath and to re-oil the rails.

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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by stiffler4444 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:43 am

Yes, I feel very lucky, and only one small spot of rust bubble was even luckier! I will be refinishing them soon. That is if they can even be saved, but it's nice to know that nothing rotten is going on underneath :)
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by krick3tt » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:51 am

The wood against the body traps moisture and then rust begins. When installing new or refurbished rails of any type put a 1/8 inch fender washer as a stand off spacer to allow the rail not to touch the body. Really makes little difference in the design and function of the rail.
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Re: Rubbing strip removal

Post by namtinker » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:47 pm

Removal on mine took a while... 4 bolts had to be drilled out, then the rest of the rivnuts all drilled in and new stainless ones installed. Some minor rust to be removed.
This was followed by a double coat of POR15 and topcoat. Strips have been re-sanded, and I'll coat with POR again.
The stand-off idea makes sense. May try this with some stainless washers.

Coenraad

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