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Tomaboyd
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Winch Question

Post by Tomaboyd » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:27 pm

I have an opportunity to acquire a new Warn 80907 (Severe Duty 18K, 24v) winch for small fraction of the MSRP. Less than I would have to pay for most of their other 9-15K winches.

I have a 710M with a nice winch mount.

My question is, is this just a ridiculous winch for the 710. I do intend to replace the cable/fairlead with rope/hawser to save on the weight. I know people have them on 712’s.

Normally I would not consider this winch for my 710, but the cost makes it worth heavy consideration. But I don’t want is to have some big, oversized monstrosity on my front bumper making me look like I am compensating for something.

Thoughts are greatly appreciated.

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Re: Winch Question

Post by rmel » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:49 pm

I put a Ramsey Profile 9500 24V on my 710. I also eliminated the controller
and located a heavy duty Contactor in the side of the passengers footwell
to keep the grill more open for air flow. It's a pretty small footprint up
front and the weight is about 80 lbs with a synthetic rope.

What your looking at is considerably heavier and I would assume the
planetary gear housing is pretty large. But, Warn is cheating a wee bit.
That winch only has a 4.5hp motor geared low to 315:1. That's how they
get the pull. To contrast, the Ramsey is a 5.5hp 138:1. So that Warn
may not be as large as one would think for a 18,000 lb pull. It's going
to be very slow though.

So maybe the things to consider are: Weight, potential Blockage up front,
spooling speed versus the bargain it may be.

I'm about to spring for a 2'nd winch for my 712 and might just get another
Ramsey Profile 9500 or perhaps the next size up.
Puller: 71' 710K 2.7L EFI aka Mozo
Follower: Sankey MK 3, 3/4 Tonne
Rescue Pinz: 73' 712M

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Re: Winch Question

Post by Tomaboyd » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:48 pm

You make a solid point about the dimensions. The Warn M18 is a beast. Significantly larger than the Ramsey Profile 9500. But I an actually get it cheaper than the Ramsey by a fair bit.

Price is not everything though.

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Re: Winch Question

Post by VinceAtReal4x4s » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:07 pm

I'd make it look as pretty as possible in pics and post it on various platforms and see if you can make enough to buy a better winch. 18K is just too big. It would be easy to screw up your front-end structure if that thing gets near stall in a heavy pull, etc.. plus the weight and size issues mentioned; that's a lot more weight for a Pinz frame to deal with. My M8000 set-up was under 70lbs on my last rig and that's the winch I recommend to everyone or go up to the 9000-9500 or a Husky 10 for the 712's. You are also looking at much more expensive syn rope having to go to 1/2" and more issues with snatch blocks (depending on model) and so on.
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Re: Winch Question

Post by bikmakr » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 pm

That sounds like what I am running. With synthetic line, it's under 90 lbs total. Mine was off an MRAP military vehicle. It has the over-current control on as well. It is a fantastic winch. Bullet-proof.

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