Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Build projects, things that guys have come up with to make a Pinz better (or worse?) and aftermarket add-ons.
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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Joeri » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:05 am

Hello

Well the chinees heater came in today.... :mrgreen:

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It has exactly the same bolt patern as the Eberspacher so no holes have to be drilled, and its a bit smaller then the eberspacher :D

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Same bolt patern and the same conections:

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As i have a Diesel pinz its more of a one on one replacement ....will post some more pictures soon.

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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by whitesik » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:32 am

To avoid a second fuel tank, I would consider a gasoline version as was the original in my 710K. Are they not made or is sticking with gasoline a foolish endeavor?
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Post by VinceAtReal4x4s » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:51 pm

In my case there was no previous heater so I went diesel because, mainly, I didn't see any petrol based ones available or that were priced like that, and secondly, diesel is inherently safer and more efficient.
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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Joeri » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:57 pm

Personaly...i would use a ( second) small fuel tank and just go with diesel....they don 't use a lot of fuel :wink:

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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Garrycol » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:06 pm

whitesik wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:32 am
To avoid a second fuel tank, I would consider a gasoline version as was the original in my 710K. Are they not made or is sticking with gasoline a foolish endeavor?
I have not seen a petrol version of these cheap ebay heaters - all diesel.

I used to be aircrew in a navy aircraft with twin radials burning hi octane avgas. It had a avgas burning heater in the nose - we were always too scared to use it in case it caught fire which other operators had issues with - was eventually disconnected so it could not be lit up.
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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Joeri » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:29 am

Some more work done :mrgreen:

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Now....here's where everything come's out the pinz and its normaly hidden behind this ugly panel that i didnt like so i came with this solution :
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The original panel:
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The new solution :
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The new box still needs a second paint spray ....i am going to put the solar regulator in here becouse it sits verry close to my battery's ....and becouse i have 2 12volt ones ( one starting and one living battery), it can charge my living one anny time . Also one of two intake muflers for the heater is going in here :P
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This is how it looks behind the new box:
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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Pinz710 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:03 pm

Ah yes- rig up all the nice plastic "MADE IN CHINA" stuff you can to your specialized Austrian truck- what a brilliant- and quintesentially American thing to do. I'll be waiting for the "So my Pinzgauer burned down but I don't know why..." post.
I don't understand the mindless modifying of these trucks. If a Pinzgauer doesn't fit your needs as it comes, WHY DO YOU OWN ONE?

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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Garrycol » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:32 pm

Pinz710 wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:03 pm
Ah yes- rig up all the nice plastic "MADE IN CHINA" stuff you can to your specialized Austrian truck- what a brilliant- and quintesentially American thing to do. I'll be waiting for the "So my Pinzgauer burned down but I don't know why..." post.
I don't understand the mindless modifying of these trucks. If a Pinzgauer doesn't fit your needs as it comes, WHY DO YOU OWN ONE?
Rivet counters are alive and well - if you own it you can do what you want to it.
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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Joeri » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:46 am

Pinz710 wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:03 pm
Ah yes- rig up all the nice plastic "MADE IN CHINA" stuff you can to your specialized Austrian truck- what a brilliant- and quintesentially American thing to do. I'll be waiting for the "So my Pinzgauer burned down but I don't know why..." post.
I don't understand the mindless modifying of these trucks. If a Pinzgauer doesn't fit your needs as it comes, WHY DO YOU OWN ONE?
Well mine came from the factory with a Dieselheater but the damn thing is 35 years old and had faild for the third time ( draws a lot of amps when starting up ) ...so heaving it checked or fixed would cost more than this new one , so i give it a try :mrgreen:
It still runs and is a lot quieter than the old one , has a timer/ temp. function you can activate so why would you not go for it?
I know some of you are wanting these trucks as factory spec, and i get it but mine is a bit different.....it was build like the buyer requested, it has never been a army truck and is one of the 211 civilian Diesel pinzgauers made.

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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Mr Zero » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:04 pm

Pinz710 wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:03 pm
If a Pinzgauer doesn't fit your needs as it comes, WHY DO YOU OWN ONE?
I'm pretty sure that no one here has an army to outfit, so short of being a military memorabilia collector most owners and potential owners see an extraordinarily capable platform that with a little tweaking has the potential to be the ultimate *INSERT USAGE SCENARIO HERE* vehicle. I honestly question how much use an owner is getting from their Pinz if they haven't modified it at least a bit to their particular application.

Part of the allure of surplus Pinzies is the cost to value factor, so replacing a non-essential ~45 year old heater, or adding a new one, at ~$1500-$2000 USD for a new 24v gas Eberspacher unit on a truck that may have been purchased for as little as $7000 USD just doesn't make good economic sense to a lot of folks.

There's certainly nothing wrong with testing value replacement/add-on parts as long as it's done with potential risks in mind. This forum is full of budget-minded solutions to all sorts of mechanical and accessory needs. We all benefit when someone here takes the time and consideration to explore these options and shares with the rest of us. By the way, thanks everybody!

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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by boeing7873 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:53 pm

Gentlemen, ladies?,
Don't give up so easy on the original Eberspachers, there are a pain but once refurbished, they do great.

I have produced pressure reg diaphragms and some other small parts that usually contribute to a good running unit.

If you do give up, please consider publishing the old units for parts, in this forum AND in thesamba.com. Many WV bus drivers are restestoring them and parts are welcome.

Contact Jason Niegel "Notchboy" (active on the Samba forum) for help, parts trading buying or selling.




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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Derrickbwg » Sat May 09, 2020 7:12 am

Pinz710 wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:03 pm
Ah yes- rig up all the nice plastic "MADE IN CHINA" stuff you can to your specialized Austrian truck- what a brilliant- and quintesentially American thing to do. I'll be waiting for the "So my Pinzgauer burned down but I don't know why..." post.
I don't understand the mindless modifying of these trucks. If a Pinzgauer doesn't fit your needs as it comes, WHY DO YOU OWN ONE?
I bet yours is quite entertaining to drive on those Maloya tires :D ...you are running OEM maloyas right??
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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by whitesik » Sat May 09, 2020 8:15 am

Back on topic! Any update on how these are working and installation? I am particularly interested in the All in One units.
Jason, did you get yours installed?
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Re: Lots of cheap heaters popping up

Post by Mr Zero » Sat May 09, 2020 9:29 am

whitesik wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 8:15 am
Back on topic! Any update on how these are working and installation? I am particularly interested in the All in One units.
Jason, did you get yours installed?
Unfortunately, no. The weather warmed, COVID set in, and I've been "working" from the trail through much of this crazy time. I'll definitely post an update when I get back to the heater project.

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