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electric steering assist

Post by 4x4Pinz » Sun May 29, 2016 10:37 pm

I picked up (or should I say a friend picked one up for me) picked up a kit and converter from Expedition Imports at the Expo in Flagstaff. Finished the install Friday night. Can not seem to get the unit to work. Have done all the trouble shooting provided in the installation instructions from EI and still no go. Went over all the wiring and double checked for correct voltages, still no go. If anything it seems more difficult to steer now. The relays are making the appropriate noises as per directions just does not seem to work. I had such high hopes for this kit from the people that I have spoke with that have experience with it.
Will have to contact EI and see if they have any ideas. I am confident it is something simple but it sure is troubling after spending so much time. EI said they could install them in 4-5 hours now that they have done a few. They must have some really talented folks working there.

Frustrated but still trying to get it working.

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by VinceAtReal4x4s » Sun May 29, 2016 10:45 pm

How is it being powered? Just wondering if you are delivering enough amperage.
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Re: electric steering assist

Post by 4x4Pinz » Sun May 29, 2016 11:25 pm

bought the converter that EI sells for the kit. The converter is only serving the steering system.

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by Haf-e » Mon May 30, 2016 12:56 pm

Sounds like it isn't working - a bum unit perhaps? - I would talk with Scott to troubleshoot and/or replace. I don't think your experience is typical for an electric assist system - they do work!
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Re: electric steering assist

Post by TechMOGogy » Mon May 30, 2016 1:40 pm

Yeah call Scott - unit must be bad
If it is however your steering "technically" should just go back to manual, not sure why yours would feel heavier?
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Re: electric steering assist

Post by NEWFISHER » Mon May 30, 2016 11:05 pm

Mine is enroute, wondering if there is a way to bench test the system with 12v before installation?

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by NEWFISHER » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:50 pm

Any updates? Did you get it working?

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by David Dunn » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:11 pm

NEWFISHER wrote:Mine is enroute, wondering if there is a way to bench test the system with 12v before installation?
I'd be interested to know if the bench was easier to steer. :twisted:
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Re: electric steering assist

Post by NEWFISHER » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:15 pm

it's possible. These tires, when deflated, are a " bench" to steer!

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by 4x4Pinz » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:07 pm

going through some more detailed troubleshooting this weekend. Hopefully good news will come of it. Really hoping it is something simple.

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by MACH » Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:35 pm

I would tap one battery ( to get +12 volts and full amperage ) , if this works , then the problem is the converter.
do not bypass the fuse.

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by 4x4Pinz » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:05 pm

well it has been a few months with the electric power steering installed and all is still working as it should. Took a simple trail ride this past weekend(nothing remotely technical) but had a chance to try it out on some dirt and down hill into some ruts. Everything worked great. I am anxious to get it on a little more aggressive trail and now that the weather is starting to cool down I will be on the trails a lot more.
I can now say that in town and on simple trails this is a great add to the truck. Driving and more importantly parking the 712 is SO MUCH EASIER.
Some of the other pinz owners are seriously considering the unit as it makes the pinz driveable by their wives.
I can not imagine how easy a 710 would drive with this unit installed. Would have to be like driving a modern vehicle.

To date I am very pleased.

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by NEWFISHER » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:57 pm

My wife has several drives now since the conversion!

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Re: electric steering assist

Post by Hotzenplotz » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:43 am

what are the specs of the DC/DC converter ? most important to me is amps ...
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Re: electric steering assist

Post by rmel » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:58 am

The original topic on this subject "Electric steering for 710/712s"
covers the converter and current.

My choice would be the Victron Energy 24V->12V 70A. More than
necessary but it is compact and affordable and from a very high
quality company.
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