Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

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Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by boeing7873 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:31 am

I was looking around the web for info on what the new electric cars are using for AC systems. I would assume the electric compressors must be quite efficient. I could not find any info on Amps/Watts on a (lets say) a Nissan Leaf compressor. They are apparently made by Panasonic.
I looked at options, and on Alibaba there are several 12V/24V AC compressors and AC complete systems.
The complete systems go for $1000, the compressors for about $400. These are brushless motor compressors, here are some specs:

Model- Voltage- Piston Vol- Refrigerating Capacity W and BTU/H - Input Power W
HB075Z12 8J DC12V 7.5 850 2890 340
HB075Z24 0J DC24V 7.5 850 2890 340
KFB096Z24 8L DC24V 9.6 1200 4080 400
KFB096Z48 8L DC48V 9.6 1200 4080 400
HB075Z72 8J DC72V 7.5 850 2890 283
KFB096Z72 8L DC72V 9.6 1200 4080 380

I was wondering if it would be worth buying a compressor and doing a custom system or just try ready system. At 340W consumption... it should be 13AMPs? It seems low. The ready to go systems quote consumption of 30Amps.
Would that be OK for the Pinz or should I install a separate alternator?
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by Haf-e » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:30 am

A load of 30 amps would use nearly all of the Pinzgauer's limited alternator capacity. A second alternator would be required - GUT automotive in Switzerland sells a nice bracket as an example.

30 amps at 24v would be 720 watts. Probably enough cooling for the front area of a pinz if the roof was insulated or a small camper box - depending on the ambient temps.

The Leaf compressor is connected to a 370 vdc battery so it wouldn't be feasible to reuse it for a pinz.

There are some rooftop AC units that use 24 vdc - one company is called "dc airco" out of the Netherlands. Last I looked they were very expensive.

http://www.dcairco.com/product/trucks-a ... onditioner
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by rmel » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:03 am

You might find the article below on Mobile A/C of interests.
The net of it is anything under 3,000 BTU/hr is getting to the
point of being close to useless, that's just over 30A@24V.

http://www.sae.org/standardsdev/tsb/coo ... ile_ac.pdf
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by TechMOGogy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:25 pm

I just got my zerobreeze 1100 btu unit and use it just in the front part of my cab (insulated top and curtain) and it works.
It can run off its own battery or can be hooked up to one of my 24-12v converters (still need to make a quick connect plug) and while a bit awkward, just sits on the dog house cover (or passenger seat and blows the hot air into the rear (poor kids - joke )
Great for camping if it is humid out.
http://www.zero-breeze.com/
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by rmel » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:55 pm

I am surprised that only 1100 BTU/hr makes that much of a difference!
How long does it take to cool down when the cab has been sitting in
the hot sun ?
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by TechMOGogy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:23 pm

rmel wrote:I am surprised that only 1100 BTU/hr makes that much of a difference!
How long does it take to cool down when the cab has been sitting in
the hot sun ?
Just got it so it is not a fair test at this point but with it blowing on me it cools :)
Hot cab definitely needs windows or my kick vents open to remove hot air
Will report back at end of Aug for a longer (hotter) test time.
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by David Dunn » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:03 pm

TechMOGogy wrote: Just got it so it is not a fair test at this point but with it blowing on me it cools :)
Hot cab definitely needs windows or my kick vents open to remove hot air
Will report back at end of Aug for a longer (hotter) test time.
Also not much of a comparison from above the 49th parallel :wink: . Try a road trip down below to the southwest …. Or better yet, let’s see how it does here. 36.5054° N, 117.0794° W I'll be in the lodge with the cold beer. :P
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by TechMOGogy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:36 pm

Well...the most southern point in Ontario is further south than the most Northern point of California!!
While I don't live there, in summer we can get some HEAT - just does not last as long :)
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by boeing7873 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:39 am

Check these things out:
https://world.taobao.com/item/552048998 ... t=4#detail
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... .16.hwX7iE

Much more stuff, cheapo from China if you spend the time... I wonder how much of it is junk.

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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by Haf-e » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:27 pm

The specs on the rooftop unit show it as having a rather low energy efficiency ratio (EER) - 2.2 (based on the European method of watts of electricity used / watts of cooling - not the NA method of watts used / BTUs of cooling) - which is fairly common with these RV type rooftop units since everything has to be mounted together and made as small as possible - not allowing for much insulation and small heat exchanger sizes. I know many of the automotive split systems as well as better quality portable AC units have EERs of 3.2 or higher.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... .16.hwX7iE

So a true "split" style unit (as used in cars) would be a better choice even though it would be more difficult to install. The outside condenser coil could be installed in front of the grill / air intake using one of the fake 716/718 noses perhaps. I know on the Subaru Sambar mini (Kei) vans they put the condenser under the van towards the middle - so perhaps it could be behind the gas tank where the spare fuel can is located.

Also the rooftop units are heavy - 28 kg / 62 lbs - which isn't ideal to have up on a roof. With a split unit, the weight would be less and much lower.

I looked at putting a portable unit into my sprinter van and thought this one might be a good option - it has dual hoses so it doesn't use interior air for cooling the condenser (single hose units cause hot air to be drawn into the vehicle - increasing the cooling load and reducing the effectiveness).

http://www.climax-air.com/documents/Cli ... cSheet.pdf

Its also uses an "inverter" type compressor which is able to operate at variable speed - so it doesn't cycle "on-off" and instead just backs off once the space is cooled - that is more comfortable and also more efficient too. Its and 120 VAC powered unit so an inverter would be required but, since it uses a variable speed "inverter" to drive the compressor the startup surge is very low - making it possible to power with a smaller inverter than a typical AC unit.
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Re: Electric AC from electric cars for PINZs

Post by Haf-e » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:41 pm

TechMOGogy wrote:I just got my zerobreeze 1100 btu unit and use it just in the front part of my cab (insulated top and curtain) and it works.
It can run off its own battery or can be hooked up to one of my 24-12v converters (still need to make a quick connect plug) and while a bit awkward, just sits on the dog house cover (or passenger seat and blows the hot air into the rear (poor kids - joke )
Great for camping if it is humid out.
http://www.zero-breeze.com/
Do you have the exhaust pipe option for it?

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1971 Pinzgauer 710M

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Disc Brake Conversion Kits for 710 and 712 Pinzgauers
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