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Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:55 pm
by TechMOGogy
Hmmm - looks the same as mine unless I am missing something?
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Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:04 pm
by rmel
It does but it appears the top portion of the slider was no used.
Using it gives a frame tHe seat botttom bolts to so it can be removed
easily.

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:25 pm
by rmel
Well here's my Smart Car Seat frame -- passenger side.

Top portion of slider retained and welded to the bottom portion
of the Pinz seat frame. I ended up tack welding the members
in place then torch Brazing them inplace. My MIG is a complete
POS, but once tacked you can remove the seat bottom and torch
away. Time to cave and get a decent MIG.
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I need to shot a top coat over this frame then I can send a PIX of
the complet assembly.

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:42 am
by rmel
Passenger seat installed. As you can see using the upper portion of the Slider
as a base to weld to the Pinz bottom frame does not raise the seat significantly.

What's nice about using this member is that the seat is easily removed from the
frame. I also chose to swap the position of the seats; Driver to Passenger
and visa versa, placing the seat recline control outboard making it easier to
adjust recline when removing the seats.
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Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:18 pm
by TechMOGogy
Looks good and makes sense re the adjuster
What about the shoulder belt piece, you just cut them off both seats (since it would be on the wrong side now)

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:37 pm
by rmel
They pretty much would be in the way no matter what side so I cut
them off then hit the exposed metal with some black paint. Also
would have interfered with adding a pair of Smittybilt G.E.A.R.
(Molle/Pals) seat covers. I have a set in my 710K, great for storing
odds and ends and effective way to utilize the space behind the seats.

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:18 pm
by TechMOGogy
What did you do with the side air bag?

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:03 pm
by rmel
Oh :shock: Hmmm, well I didn't know there was one.
Didn't see any indication of something on the side of the seat.
Can you send me a PIX of it's location. Wouldn't want that
to go off randomly.

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:56 am
by TechMOGogy
Side of the seats - ABS logo
If you don't mind, can you let me know... mine are still in there too :shock:
There was a post online I found last summer on how to remove but it was some pay for the info link I was not about to do

rmel wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:03 pm
Oh :shock: Hmmm, well I didn't know there was one.
Didn't see any indication of something on the side of the seat.
Can you send me a PIX of it's location. Wouldn't want that
to go off randomly.

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:21 am
by rmel
Well Dah :P says Airbag right on that plastic side panel -- I have them too.

I suppose this is another good reason to swap the seat positions. If for some
reason the activator decided to go off the bag would have a larger space to
expand to. Dono how I didn't notice this :?

Found these two links, one does require an annual fee of £10 -- Evilution seems
to be the place to go for these Fortwo's.

https://www.evilution.co.uk/interior/airbag_removal.htm

Here's what the unit looks like, found this on eBay.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayIS ... 8000&ver=0

I don't think I am going to touch this, unless a well defined procedure surfaces.

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:16 pm
by TechMOGogy
Yup - same link I found that wanted $
There is a smartcar guy buy me - this Spring I will drive the Pinz over and see if he can get them out.
I don't like driving with a bomb on my back :)
If it went off I would probably die of a heart attack or drive into a wall from the scare!

Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:20 pm
by Bruce Berger
I figured that if I couldn’t find a safe way to remove them I’d just connect the airbag wires together and ground them well.


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Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:44 pm
by rmel
Final install. The one additional minor recommendation I would make
w.r.t. the drivers seat frame, is to cut approximately 1/2" off the bottom
of the Upper portion of the Smart Car seat rail. This will result in both
seats perched exactly at the same height -- these are unusually high seat backs.
The reason the Drivers side Pinz frame is higher is due to the frame sitting
on a slider mechanism raising the overall by about 1/2". I wanted both the
seat and headrest as low as possible.
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Re: Smart Car Seats

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:58 pm
by rmel
Final tweak 8) I sprung for a MOLLE/PALS seat cover from Rugged Ridge.
Was a bit of a gamble as these Smart Car seats are narrow and high back.
After market products like this from Rugged and Smittybilt typically
target the Jeep market. I have a set of Smitty covers in my 710 and I
knew they would be too wide and stout for these Smart seats. Good news
is that the Rugged Ridge product is definitely cut narrower and a bit longer
so the fit is decent. Very handy for putting FirstAid, Tire care, lighting,
etc etc etc in these seat back pockets.

Cheers.
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