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Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:58 pm
by TechMOGogy
Headed North!!
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Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:50 pm
by krick3tt
That is one fine looking pinz. Be proud.

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:06 pm
by rmel
What! No winch? Are the trails that easy in Maple leaf land :lol:

Man that's one Awesome looking Pinz -- you got the Power Steering built in too right?

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:55 am
by TechMOGogy
Winch mount is in the back.
Once here I will look to source a winch.
Wondering how I can get 1 winch to work with both a 24v Pinz and a 12v G - dual motor gigglepin or I have read of people that run their 12v winch at 24v?

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:22 am
by pcolette
Great looking truck! Lots of nice functional upgrades with a great paint job.

Enjoy!

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:26 am
by NEWFISHER
Glad you are now getting it! I also had the 2 winch delima. I know have 3 12v and 1 24v. Cradle, car trailer, truck and Pinz. Fought the urge to get a 24 but the Zeon 24v is awesome. So far Pinz pulls 1, others....many. Added the remote to it and its great!

We need more pics of your Pinz!

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:28 am
by Ian
TechMOGogy wrote:Winch mount is in the back.
Once here I will look to source a winch.
Wondering how I can get 1 winch to work with both a 24v Pinz and a 12v G - dual motor gigglepin or I have read of people that run their 12v winch at 24v?
I've run my 12V warn on 24V now for around 2 years without issue. The killer is if you overspeed the motor, which it will do when no load is on it if you let it. I avoid this by pulsing the switch till I have taken the slack in and the load is on it. This avoids the motor speed building up. Once there is a load on it, you can use it normally as the speed can't build up. I've never measured it, but I reckon the voltage drop at the motor under high load would be so much there would be nowhere near 24V anyway.
I think if you were buying one specifically for the Pinz, it would make sense to just get a 24V one. I already had a good 12V one, which is why I used it, and I think as long as you have a understanding what is going on and how to use it, there is no reason not too.
And, hey, how often do you get a Pinz stuck anyway :D :D :D

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:48 am
by waterdog
Ian wrote:
TechMOGogy wrote:Winch mount is in the back.
Once here I will look to source a winch.
Wondering how I can get 1 winch to work with both a 24v Pinz and a 12v G - dual motor gigglepin or I have read of people that run their 12v winch at 24v?
I've run my 12V warn on 24V now for around 2 years without issue. The killer is if you overspeed the motor, which it will do when no load is on it if you let it. I avoid this by pulsing the switch till I have taken the slack in and the load is on it. This avoids the motor speed building up. Once there is a load on it, you can use it normally as the speed can't build up. I've never measured it, but I reckon the voltage drop at the motor under high load would be so much there would be nowhere near 24V anyway.
I think if you were buying one specifically for the Pinz, it would make sense to just get a 24V one. I already had a good 12V one, which is why I used it, and I think as long as you have a understanding what is going on and how to use it, there is no reason not too.
And, hey, how often do you get a Pinz stuck anyway :D :D :D
how about when you have to roll back in your cable after use??? do you have to do it slowly???? to not speed up....

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:25 am
by TechMOGogy
Ian wrote:
TechMOGogy wrote:Winch mount is in the back.
Once here I will look to source a winch.
Wondering how I can get 1 winch to work with both a 24v Pinz and a 12v G - dual motor gigglepin or I have read of people that run their 12v winch at 24v?
I've run my 12V warn on 24V now for around 2 years without issue. The killer is if you overspeed the motor, which it will do when no load is on it if you let it. I avoid this by pulsing the switch till I have taken the slack in and the load is on it. This avoids the motor speed building up. Once there is a load on it, you can use it normally as the speed can't build up. I've never measured it, but I reckon the voltage drop at the motor under high load would be so much there would be nowhere near 24V anyway.
I think if you were buying one specifically for the Pinz, it would make sense to just get a 24V one. I already had a good 12V one, which is why I used it, and I think as long as you have a understanding what is going on and how to use it, there is no reason not too.
And, hey, how often do you get a Pinz stuck anyway :D :D :D
It is for the Pinz but would also like to use it on my PUCH G vs having to buy 2
Thanks for the info on the speed makes sense!

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:11 pm
by Ian
waterdog wrote:
Ian wrote:
TechMOGogy wrote:Winch mount is in the back.
Once here I will look to source a winch.
Wondering how I can get 1 winch to work with both a 24v Pinz and a 12v G - dual motor gigglepin or I have read of people that run their 12v winch at 24v?
I've run my 12V warn on 24V now for around 2 years without issue. The killer is if you overspeed the motor, which it will do when no load is on it if you let it. I avoid this by pulsing the switch till I have taken the slack in and the load is on it. This avoids the motor speed building up. Once there is a load on it, you can use it normally as the speed can't build up. I've never measured it, but I reckon the voltage drop at the motor under high load would be so much there would be nowhere near 24V anyway.
I think if you were buying one specifically for the Pinz, it would make sense to just get a 24V one. I already had a good 12V one, which is why I used it, and I think as long as you have a understanding what is going on and how to use it, there is no reason not too.
And, hey, how often do you get a Pinz stuck anyway :D :D :D
how about when you have to roll back in your cable after use??? do you have to do it slowly???? to not speed up....
Yes, but you can't do it slowly, so maybe 2 seconds on and then half a second off to let the speed drop off and then repeat. I tend to be pretty cautious about it, but you can hear the motor clearly. Even doing that it'll wind in much faster than one running on 12V.

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:03 pm
by TechMOGogy
My truck arrived today!!!!
1st time I have actually seen my truck since I purchased it 3 years ago!!
It's been a long haul and an increadible project. The truck is nothing short of increadible.
It arrived at 2:30 this afternoon and we had a party to got to at 3 so I got to spend only about 5 mins in it :(
May need to take off work!
Will be posting lots of pictures soon
The quick drive that I did around the block and into the drive... the 2.7 EFI fired right up and the EZ power steering seems to work well (more thourogh testing to come).
Jim and Andre did amazing work on it! Jim striped the engine and worked his magic and Andre stripped the rest of the truck right down, cleaned every part it, powder coated pretty much everything we could and fabbed up a bunch of custom parts!
Just need to get it plated and we're good to go.
More to share soon
Cheers,
Massive grin on my face - Dan

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:25 am
by stiffler4444
Nice, congrats! Soon I will be getting a 12000lb. warn 12v winch at a price I cannot refuse. Once my winch bumper is back from powdercoating, I will mount it up and have more input on the 12v - 24v thing.

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:54 am
by TechMOGogy
1st real test drive went well
Still need to get it "officially" plated before I do much more driving
For now I am just crawling all over and under it.
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Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:47 pm
by stiffler4444
How in the world are you going to bring yourself to getting this dirty???? :shock:

Re: 710M rebuild

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:21 pm
by TechMOGogy
Peer pressure :)