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NM_Mogman
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Re: Engine rebuild

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Thanks for that bit of info on the gasket! I am about to place my order and will be able to switch to the three notch gasket before the invoice generates!

As for fitting an M14.... :twisted: yeah, I called the U.S. rep and spoke to them about that. They told me that I could do it but, I would have to buy the motor part by part. Other option would be to find one used...as if you could so easily (and forget about fitting the marine version because they told me they were two totally different designs and can't be done like "regular" motors). If I had chosen to build the motor piece by piece it would have cost more than $40K (he never did give me a straight figure)!! Yup, it just has to remain a dream until I hit the lottery.

Thanks,
Phil
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No problem re the gasket info, I hope this fixes all your head problems.

Re the Steyr M14 motor........Yes, they are expensive new, but my future plans will involve finding a second-hand monoblock.
If you have a look at the Steyr site you'll see the M14 motors (or derivatives) are fitted to a lot of Chinese and Russian based vehicles and even a version of the Chrysler Minivan (however I can't find any additional info on this vehicle on the net).
I'm not convinced these vehicles are standard, off the shelf/readily available, showroom models, but surely in future years some will end up in wreckers.

Steyr Site:
http://www.steyr-motors.com/home/

Chrysler Minivan:
http://www.steyr-motors.com/automotive/ ... 4-vti-153/

Russian GAZ (the vehicle had a licence built M14 called the ZMZ-560)
http://www.steyr-motors.com/automotive/ ... 4-tca-155/

Pinzgauer fitted with an M14:
http://www.steyr-motors.com/automotive/ ... 4-tca-170/

Still, for me it's a "future project" as I have to finish rebuilding my 718 first. :D
Peter

1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover

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NM_Mogman
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Re: Engine rebuild

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Does anyone happen to have an extra oil squirter for the diesel motor? I am at the end of a rebuild and that is the last part I need to finish it up and finally get back on the road!

Thanks,
Phil
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Re: Engine rebuild

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Profpinz wrote:Re gasket thickness, I asked a similar question of some of the experts on Robi's Forum (German Pinzgauer & Haflinger Forum) in particular WF who knows Pinzgauer's backwards.....his expertise is well known on the Forum.

I was told to always fit the thickest MLS gasket available (ie. 3 notch) and that in Europe VW/AUDI repairs normally fit the thickest gasket as standard.
The following reasons were given:

1/. It minimise the smoke/dust layer on the valves and pistons.
3/. The slightly lower compression increases motor durability/life particularly under high boost.
Prof,

You wouldn't happen to have gotten an idea of what a high, but safe, boost pressure would be from WF? I am now at largest oversized pistons and 3-notch gasket on an rebuilt motor, but you can feel the slight loss of compression at 5,600+ feet elevation!

Thanks,

Phil
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I didn't get any actual figures at the time of asking, but I'm sure if you asked the question on Robi's Forum, WF or someone else will be able to help you out.......I'm only suggesting you ask on Robi's forum as TD Pinny's are far more prevalent in Europe.
http://pinzforum.kiruna.de/
Peter

1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover

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NM_Mogman
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Re: Engine rebuild

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Thanks! It does make sense to ask on that forum.

EDIT! I lived in Germany for six years...as a child. This presents a problem as the security questions are all in German and I can't seem to get an answer correct, even after a translation. :oops:
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Ohh, I'm surprised at that, as they are generally very helpful.....and usually post in "english" for me.
Peter

1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover

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Re: Engine rebuild

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NM_Mogman wrote:Thanks! It does make sense to ask on that forum.

EDIT! I lived in Germany for six years...as a child. This presents a problem as the security questions are all in German and I can't seem to get an answer correct, even after a translation. :oops:
It took me about 2-3 weeks of trying and finally I got registered. No clue why but same as you I was trying to use Google translate
I guess keep trying!
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