Mayola Question

ScottishPinz · Post by **ScottishPinz** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:40 am

Getting to the point of buying new tyres (or tires for those in the US) and I have a few questions about the original Mayolas: Are they 245/85/16 in size, and are they radial ply or cross ply?

Perhaps we could also have a survey of tyres in use by members, metric sizes please.

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:14 pm

The Simex Extreme Trekker tyre size I use isn't on the poll list

..... but if I was to revert to a more "standard size" tyre, I'd go 255-85's (I originally ran 255-85 BFG MT's) and I voted that way.

krick3tt · Post by **krick3tt** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:51 am

I have 255/85/16 BFG MT's. But they will throw your milage and speed off a bit, unless you have an adjustable speedo. At 72kph I am going 50mph and that is about 8% difference. When I was figuring my milage per gallon it just hit me that my calcs were off juat a bit.

Cheers,
Morris

springhill · Post by **springhill** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:38 pm

To answer your original question. The maloyas are closest in size to a 245/75/16 ---- in my opinion. I run 235/85/16 because there is a large selection and are less expensive than the larger tires. I do have a set of TRXUS 285/75/16 on one 710.

john

Twin Pinzies · Post by **Twin Pinzies** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:00 pm

I couldn't vote in the pole for some reason but I run 285/75/r16's on two of my 710M's and 34x10.5 16's on one.

ScottishPinz · Post by **ScottishPinz** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:04 pm

What I'm really wanting to do is get a tyre that is biggar (greater circumfrance) or at least equal to the Mayolas. 255/85/16 is, but I'm not sure about 235/85/16! Using an online calculator the Mayolas seem to be about 245/80ish/16 as they are marked 245 and measure 80cm diameter on my worn out ones.

Also anyone know if they are radial or cross ply?
Philip

Jim LaGuardia · Post by **Jim LaGuardia** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:21 pm

Boy are you into wasting time

Take a relaxing journey through the Internet

All the tire manufacturer websites list complete details on circumference.

A 235 tire is smaller (shorter than the stock 245's).
BFG 285's are 33 inches(83.82cm), here is a link to the specs for all of the BFG M/T's http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs/mu ... /1152.html

milesdzyn · Post by **milesdzyn** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:43 pm

I allways thought tires were specified as......Tread width/Side wall height as a percentage of tread width/Rim diameter. So a 245/80/16 the side wall height would be 196. Or have I been mistaken all these years? What a mix Metric/Percentage/Inches

Miles

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:55 pm

No, your right Miles.
The confusing thing is the mix of metric and imperial measurements!

For a 255-85 X 16
The width is 255 mm therefore the sidewall height is
85% of 255 = 216.75 mm
Therefore the height of the tyre is
(216.75 X 2) + the rim diameter (16" or 406.4 mm) = 839.9 mm (33.006")

springhill · Post by **springhill** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:21 pm

Here are a couple of pics comparing a 235/85/16 vs. Maloya. The 235 is taller and a little wider. Both tires are very worn.

john

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/ ... res002.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/ ... res004.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/ ... res003.jpg

ScottishPinz · Post by **ScottishPinz** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:13 am

Thanks for all the responses. Still one question unanswered...
Cross ply or radial for the Mayolas?

The sizing makes sense in a theoretical way, but the reality does not add up, John's pics of 235/85/16 tyres beside the mayolas seem to prove that!

Also what is size 750-16 they seem to be similar to 145/85/16

Jim LaGuardia · Post by **Jim LaGuardia** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:46 am

Maloyas are bias ply.

lindenengineering · Post by **lindenengineering** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:54 pm

Jim
Mate
Its called cross ply on the other side of the pond!

AND for those of you cheapskates who must mix cross plays and radials on the same truck remember the "R&R" motto:- Radials to the Rear!

Here I liked your comment on this thread about browsing the web for boring info. Not for this tech section perhaps but I will post something less boring for you all to see that doesn't involve the infernal internal combustion engine.
Cheers
Dennis
PS I will call you tomorrow ref the things we discussed today.

ScottishPinz · Post by **ScottishPinz** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:38 am

Thanks all, I'm getting quite good at translating American or Australian English, I'm Scottish after all so variations on English are second nature! (ken wat I mean)

Now I'm still wondering if anyone is running 750-16 cross ply and how they size up.

In the UK there is only BF Goodrich AT / MT and Goodyear wranglers in 255/85/16 so they are out of my budget.

http://www.4site4x4.co.uk check out the General Super All Grip in the tyre menu, looks like it would keep the "look" of original.

Anyone else care to chip in as to how they find 235/85/16 in size, are they as tall as the mayola or perhaps taller?

I hope this research isn't time wasting as getting the right rubber is important to the handling and off/on road performance.

cronapress · Post by **cronapress** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:16 am

ScottishPinz - I was quite pleased with the Fedima remoulds that were on the Pinz when I got it. When worn, I replaced them with 750 x 16 Chaco's (Radial) last year.

Never had any issues with remoulds over the years. Great wet grip on the tarmac and equally important to me, they survive a lot of trips on nasty, sharpy, pointy rocks etc. on tracks I frequent. Haven't done any serious mud stuff though. Don't know how they will "self clear".

Supplier in Bradford, Yorks. has VERY good prices - even allowing for delivery, fitting etc. PM me if you want details.

Most folk I've spoken to don't seem to have a very good opinion of the Mayola's. Similar grip on wet tarmac to a steel train wheel on a greased rail !! MMmmmm.

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