718 Rebuild
Re: 718 Rebuild
G'day Peter sexy gear shifter cover. With it being thicker will it all work ok? It's been nagging me
Regards
Mike
(Project Gimpy 2)
Mike
(Project Gimpy 2)
Re: 718 Rebuild
I don't see a problem Mike, because the complete shifter assembly is under the cover which doesn't interact directly with the operation of the mechanism however if there is problem I'm sure there will be a work around
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
Re: 718 Rebuild
Work on the 718 continues, but of late lots of the smaller "pieces" have taken up a large amount of time.
Recently I received a specially sized circlip which allowed me to complete the transfer case.
The T-Case is generally accepted as the weak point of TD Pinzgauers, especial auto's where drivers often disregard recommendations on shifting from high to low and visa versa and therefore put substantial strain on the unit, so careful assembly and a few modifications/updates suggested by a German enthusiast were the order of the day.
The rebuilt vacuum actuators.....these are not generally rebuildable components but some parts are available and I always insist "virtually anything can be rebuilt"
The T-Case just needed a bit of work and some TLC
Recently I received a specially sized circlip which allowed me to complete the transfer case.
The T-Case is generally accepted as the weak point of TD Pinzgauers, especial auto's where drivers often disregard recommendations on shifting from high to low and visa versa and therefore put substantial strain on the unit, so careful assembly and a few modifications/updates suggested by a German enthusiast were the order of the day.
The rebuilt vacuum actuators.....these are not generally rebuildable components but some parts are available and I always insist "virtually anything can be rebuilt"
The T-Case just needed a bit of work and some TLC
Last edited by Profpinz on Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:11 am, edited 2 times in total.
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
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Re: 718 Rebuild
Is the outside of the transfer case painted or raw?
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks,
Dan
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Re: 718 Rebuild
Also what is the inside coated with, and why is it coated? Excellent work, as we have come to expect from the Professor!
Jim M.
712W and 710M
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Re: 718 Rebuild
G'Day Dan and Jim,
Standard factory Pinzgauers have raw alloy castings and whilst the look good initially I've found that over the years, despite high pressure washing etc, they just become ingrain with dirt/mud/grime etc and whilst one wouldn't worry about it in normal circumstances (I haven't on my 712) I thought this time I might look for a solution/fix to keep them looking reasonable.
Some Pinzgauers owner paint the alloy castings which helps to keep them in good aesthetic condition, but I like the look of the bead blasted finish as it looks somewhat like the original factory finish, so I opted to use a POR15 two pack clear designed for such applications......I bead blast then spray them straight away to preserve the "just cast" look and hopefully keep them in nice nick for a while.
As regards the interior painting, again I use a product called Glyptal which is specially developed for this use as it:
1/. Stops weeping/permeating through the castings.
2/. Helps with oil drainage.
3/. Seals any stray material/media after blasting etc.
4/. On cast steel components such as the drop boxes it stops internal rusting from vapour/condensation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77CKFnRHA3c
http://www.eastwood.com/glyptal-red-brush-on-1-qt.html
Standard factory Pinzgauers have raw alloy castings and whilst the look good initially I've found that over the years, despite high pressure washing etc, they just become ingrain with dirt/mud/grime etc and whilst one wouldn't worry about it in normal circumstances (I haven't on my 712) I thought this time I might look for a solution/fix to keep them looking reasonable.
Some Pinzgauers owner paint the alloy castings which helps to keep them in good aesthetic condition, but I like the look of the bead blasted finish as it looks somewhat like the original factory finish, so I opted to use a POR15 two pack clear designed for such applications......I bead blast then spray them straight away to preserve the "just cast" look and hopefully keep them in nice nick for a while.
As regards the interior painting, again I use a product called Glyptal which is specially developed for this use as it:
1/. Stops weeping/permeating through the castings.
2/. Helps with oil drainage.
3/. Seals any stray material/media after blasting etc.
4/. On cast steel components such as the drop boxes it stops internal rusting from vapour/condensation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77CKFnRHA3c
http://www.eastwood.com/glyptal-red-brush-on-1-qt.html
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
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Re: 718 Rebuild
Thanks for the reply - I like the look with the clear coat
I was thinking about using this on my Hafi cast parts- similar but I have never used this product before (new) so have no reference vs POR15 which I have used (black paint only)
http://www.eastwood.com/exoarmour.html
Sorry to go off topic in your thread
Dan
I was thinking about using this on my Hafi cast parts- similar but I have never used this product before (new) so have no reference vs POR15 which I have used (black paint only)
http://www.eastwood.com/exoarmour.html
Sorry to go off topic in your thread
Dan
72 Pathfinder | 75 710M 2.7i | 96 350GDT Worker
Re: 718 Rebuild
I use GLISTEN PC, a POR15 product.
http://www.ppcco.com.au/por11.html
http://www.ppcco.com.au/por11.html
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
Re: 718 Rebuild
I will definitely be making use of this product.Profpinz wrote:I use GLISTEN PC, a POR15 product.
http://www.ppcco.com.au/por11.html
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Re: 718 Rebuild
Well, it's been a while since I last posted, and whilst the body is progressing I decided prior to Christmas to concentrate on the wiring and engine/gearbox and the ancillaries, mainly so I could reduce the inventory of parts scattered around my workshop.
The good news is as of today I've substantially reduced the number of individual parts into a few assemblies.
The work over the past months includes:
1/. Building of a new main-front wiring loom.
2/. Complete rebuilding of the motor and ancillary components.
The wiring loom incorporates new heavier wire in most cases and the headlights and additional lighting are now controlled by relays.
The motor rebuild was the most time consuming item.
Obtaining new TTY (Torque To Yield) conrod bolts was a problem but eventually I settled on fitting ARP "re-useable" units.
For the record, ARP VW G60 Corrado bolts DO fit the VW/Pinzgauer 2.4 D24TIC motor.
The good news is as of today I've substantially reduced the number of individual parts into a few assemblies.
The work over the past months includes:
1/. Building of a new main-front wiring loom.
2/. Complete rebuilding of the motor and ancillary components.
The wiring loom incorporates new heavier wire in most cases and the headlights and additional lighting are now controlled by relays.
The motor rebuild was the most time consuming item.
Obtaining new TTY (Torque To Yield) conrod bolts was a problem but eventually I settled on fitting ARP "re-useable" units.
For the record, ARP VW G60 Corrado bolts DO fit the VW/Pinzgauer 2.4 D24TIC motor.
Last edited by Profpinz on Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:44 am, edited 2 times in total.
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
Re: 718 Rebuild
Very nice work!
Any idea why they used the 6 cylinder VW diesel motor in the Pinzgauers instead of a much more available Mercedes 5 cylinder diesel - especially since they were building the G-wagens with them in the same facilities? Always wondered...
Any idea why they used the 6 cylinder VW diesel motor in the Pinzgauers instead of a much more available Mercedes 5 cylinder diesel - especially since they were building the G-wagens with them in the same facilities? Always wondered...
Re: 718 Rebuild
The TD's are a strange mix of VW and Mercedes parts......eg, VW/Audi brake calipers, Mercedes door handles, both VW and Merc "special" cable ties etc
I understand the 716/718 was originally designed/intended to have a Steyr Monoblock diesel fitted (M14 or equiv) however as Steyr Puch was also involved with VW at the time developing the Syncro 4WD system there may have been some monetary/political reasons for "trading" products/services.
I'm not a big fan of the Merc 5 cylinder motor as fitted in the G's (I once joked with the Managing Director of Merc Benz Australia that my Haflinger could outrun a 300 G), but I love the Steyr Monoblock's and understand a few factory prototypes were fitted with these motors.....also the Pinzgauer III developed by AT was to have had a Steyr motor fitted. It's a popular military choice in many specialist vehicles.
I understand the 716/718 was originally designed/intended to have a Steyr Monoblock diesel fitted (M14 or equiv) however as Steyr Puch was also involved with VW at the time developing the Syncro 4WD system there may have been some monetary/political reasons for "trading" products/services.
I'm not a big fan of the Merc 5 cylinder motor as fitted in the G's (I once joked with the Managing Director of Merc Benz Australia that my Haflinger could outrun a 300 G), but I love the Steyr Monoblock's and understand a few factory prototypes were fitted with these motors.....also the Pinzgauer III developed by AT was to have had a Steyr motor fitted. It's a popular military choice in many specialist vehicles.
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
Re: 718 Rebuild
Yes - that is what I suspected... Also, didn't the Noriker also use this same engine? Since they were competing with the Mercedes Unimogs with that platform I guess it made more sense to use a VW engine for it.
A Steyr Monoblock engine would be great - I see them at the big marine shows here usually. Very nice engines.
A Steyr Monoblock engine would be great - I see them at the big marine shows here usually. Very nice engines.
Re: 718 Rebuild
Wow. Incredible attention to detail. Great thread. Like many others I seem to missed this in the diesel section.
Might have to drop in on my next trip 'home' for a look in person
Might have to drop in on my next trip 'home' for a look in person
Re: 718 Rebuild
Haf-e: Yes, you are right, the Noriker did have the same 2.4 motor..........I'd forgotten about that!
Basically the Noriker is 4X4 version of the VW LT, and the 2.4, 6 cylinder motor was originally designed for that vehicle.
Ako: If you are in Melbourne feel free to drop by.....Just drop me an email and we'll set it up.
Basically the Noriker is 4X4 version of the VW LT, and the 2.4, 6 cylinder motor was originally designed for that vehicle.
Ako: If you are in Melbourne feel free to drop by.....Just drop me an email and we'll set it up.
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com