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The Mother of All Barn Finds

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Stay tuned.........We photo documented it but cannot release photo's until next month.... :)

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Very Interesting! Can't wait to hear more about it!
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I'll skip the obvious and instead ask: what's with the weight being scratched out?
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Hahaha, I am the one who worked on it to get the engine Running last week.
What an honor to be the one who is allowed to work on the holy grail.

btw the engine is running now.

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And it is likely "legal" in Calif....
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Folks

This Pinz is available at a Dorotheum Auction

https://www.dorotheum.com/auktionen/akt ... rce=search

It is listed as a collector's item, starting bids at 12 k €
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The people who were prepping it for auction were very gracious to show it to us and let us photograph it while we were there with the stipulation we not us it for advertising. The reason we only posted the VIN plate. Very unique truck and as all prototype and early production vehicles very crude finish and more a test mule from the looks.

Parts availability? There are no parts since everything looks pretty close to hand made and impossible to replace unless borrowed from something else. Engine is not standard. More history than practicality. Speculation was it would go for over 20,000 Euro but we have no idea how to value it. Can't really drive it or restore it as either would negatively impact value.
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Scott

I have seen a similar prototype for auction about two years ago

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Pretty sure that one was #5 and a "civilian" model. Price was surprisingly low but then again don't know what you can do with it other than look at it.
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Use it, like it is supposed to be used! Just because it is a early one - not pristine museum finish, so what's going to change on it? A few more dents? It was built as workhorse not pretty "look but don't touch" vehicle.

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Heinkeljb wrote:Use it, like it is supposed to be used! Just because it is a early one - not pristine museum finish, so what's going to change on it? A few more dents? It was built as workhorse not pretty "look but don't touch" vehicle.

Just my opinion.

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ExpeditionImports wrote:Parts availability? There are no parts since everything looks pretty close to hand made and impossible to replace unless borrowed from something else. Engine is not standard. More history than practicality. Speculation was it would go for over 20,000 Euro but we have no idea how to value it. Can't really drive it or restore it as either would negatively impact value.

I suppose Scott is anticipating that something might break or need maintenance. Might be something to consider on a 50-y.o. vehicle. It's one thing to recreate parts for an extremely rare and valuable vehicle. But once you go through all that effort and expense, then often you don't want to use it for fear it might break. It's value in running condition would likely be far more than in non-operative shape, especially if parts are not available.

Not pretty is one thing. No repair parts is another.

Pinzgauers, just like every other type of truck, break down. If someone was looking for a Pinz to use "like it is supposed to be used", why would they buy this one when there are scads of "normal" Pinzes out there with (relatively) great parts availability?

Similar situation with the Lamborghini LM002. One of the Pinz owners nearby had one. I saw it on the road exactly once. Cool truck, but few parts available, and no tires. People who buy them don't generally actually use them.
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Take a close look at that truck and the other one. When we say #1 and #5 we mean #1 and #5. These are test mules, prototypes or whatever you want to call them. The body metal is pretty much hand made. Don't even know what engine is in them but pretty sure it is not what they ended up using. Looking at the detailed photo's from #1 the body mounts, drirveline mounts, exhaust bumper are nothing like production trucks. Drive it, break it, fab it or park it. There is no calling someone for parts on these trucks. Not even the seats are the same. Locker levers nothing like production. People think prototypes and concept cars are some wonderful thing when in reality they usually are held together with glue, tape and wire.
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After the auction they said it was OK to publish and we forgot. Came across the photo's looking for something else. Very little in common with the production trucks other than general layout. Couple of photo's below but there is a photobucket with 89 pictures:

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Very crude in it's prototype form. Only myself and Peter Farrer should own these rare models. Although trying to keep from "fixing " them would be the hard part.
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Very cool, thanks for posting it. Why do I want this? (No, I dont.) yes I do.
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