Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

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Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by heleto » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:45 pm

I am planing to buy this monstrosity...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283765257956

I looked up in this forum to see if there is info on this one. I only found the posts either bashing it or making fun of it.

I have seen it person. Here are some details:
1. It was sitting for the last 3 years occasionally going around the block.
2. It has Fiat Croma 2.0 Turbo Diesel. The owner knows nothing about it other than the fact that he replaced the turbo two years ago.
3. Rust is minimal underneath, but has rust spots on the body.
4. Cab is somewhat padded but not insulated
5. Exoskeleton is not my taste. Wheels are smaller and are of bad taste
6. Air brakes
7. Snow plow was used on previous owners driveway in Montenegro. Not for commercial purpose
8. All four axle boots are torn
9. Found oil under front differential
10. Back differential looks clean

I have no experience in Pinzgauer. I own and worked on 1970 two stoke bikes and that's pretty much it. I like old weird stuff like this and the engineering that went in these trucks seems to be an art form for me.

I live in Raleigh, NC and from what I see do not have support system as you guys do in the West.
Please let me know your thoughts.



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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by David Dunn » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm

A red head step child. The only support would be from the original Dr Frankenstein that made it. :roll:

My personal opinion would be to buy a somewhat stock Pinzgauer if you wanted community support.
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Post by VinceAtReal4x4s » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:58 am

I really, really.... really think it's a bad idea to get within 100 yards of that thing.
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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by heleto » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:52 am

David Dunn wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm
A red head step child. The only support would be from the original Dr Frankenstein that made it. :roll:

My personal opinion would be to buy a somewhat stock Pinzgauer if you wanted community support.
That makes sense. Thanks for the reply

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Post by heleto » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:53 am

VinceAtReal4x4s wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:58 am
I really, really.... really think it's a bad idea to get within 100 yards of that thing.
Still not sure, Vince.

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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by Garrycol » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:31 pm

David Dunn wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm
My personal opinion would be to buy a somewhat stock Pinzgauer if you wanted community support.
I would have hoped that if the OP did buy this vehicle even though it is not liked, the "community" would offer as much support as is possible to support the OP and his vehicle.

Pretty poor form not to offer support just because a vehicle is not to ones taste.

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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by heleto » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:40 pm

Garrycol wrote:
David Dunn wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm
My personal opinion would be to buy a somewhat stock Pinzgauer if you wanted community support.
I would have hoped that if the OP did buy this vehicle even though it is not liked, the "community" would offer as much support as is possible to support the OP and his vehicle.

Pretty poor form not to offer support just because a vehicle is not to ones taste.

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Post by rmel » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:06 pm

I have to jump in here and comment....the issue is not one of the purist only
gets support, e.g. a Pinz true to the original design, but more of one of a
"we don't know". This truck has been so heavily modified that most would
not have the ability to give you advise. Especially around the engine transplant.

You buy this "thing" and have problems with the more standard aspects of the
truck you will gt the usual FLOOD of recommendations :wink: BUT, you got a
problem with the engine, cooling, mounts, tranny wows, you may find yourself
all on your own because we just don't know what this chap did.

Good luck.
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Post by heleto » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:23 pm

rmel wrote:I have to jump in here and comment....the issue is not one of the purist only
gets support, e.g. a Pinz true to the original design, but more of one of a
"we don't know". This truck has been so heavily modified that most would
not have the ability to give you advise. Especially around the engine transplant.

You buy this "thing" and have problems with the more standard aspects of the
truck you will gt the usual FLOOD of recommendations :wink: BUT, you got a
problem with the engine, cooling, mounts, tranny wows, you may find yourself
all on your own because we just don't know what this chap did.

Good luck.
Completely understand and agreed. Speaking of which I forgot to mention that the transmission remains the same.

Yesterday and today, I did spend time over the forum and found amazing information. I am looking forward to get your support and contribute in whatever small way I can too.

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Post by rmel » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:28 pm

Ya, good example, the Tranny is stock but what is applying torque to it is not.
And I suspect the bell housing/clutch are something else too. So the point is
you make changes like this it potentially has a ripple effect throughout the
entire drivetrain -- who knows?
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Post by VinceAtReal4x4s » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:12 am

Whatever the case, at minimum, I think the car bumper needs to meet a trash bin and the wheels replaced with something reasonable, like transits or stock. ://
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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by David Dunn » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:06 am

Garrycol wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:31 pm
David Dunn wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm
My personal opinion would be to buy a somewhat stock Pinzgauer if you wanted community support.
I would have hoped that if the OP did buy this vehicle even though it is not liked, the "community" would offer as much support as is possible to support the OP and his vehicle.

Pretty poor form not to offer support just because a vehicle is not to ones taste.

Garry
I am sorry that the comment was taken out of context, but what was meant was valid answers would be limited to "known" Pinzgauer components, hence a 'somewhat' stock unit preferable. As Ron had stated, I am more concerned with the heavily mod-ed parts of this truck.
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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by pohlease » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:30 am

heleto wrote:I am planing to buy this monstrosity...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283765257956

I looked up in this forum to see if there is info on this one. I only found the posts either bashing it or making fun of it.

I have seen it person. Here are some details:
1. It was sitting for the last 3 years occasionally going around the block.
2. It has Fiat Croma 2.0 Turbo Diesel. The owner knows nothing about it other than the fact that he replaced the turbo two years ago.
3. Rust is minimal underneath, but has rust spots on the body.
4. Cab is somewhat padded but not insulated
5. Exoskeleton is not my taste. Wheels are smaller and are of bad taste
6. Air brakes
7. Snow plow was used on previous owners driveway in Montenegro. Not for commercial purpose
8. All four axle boots are torn
9. Found oil under front differential
10. Back differential looks clean

I have no experience in Pinzgauer. I own and worked on 1970 two stoke bikes and that's pretty much it. I like old weird stuff like this and the engineering that went in these trucks seems to be an art form for me.

I live in Raleigh, NC and from what I see do not have support system as you guys do in the West.
Please let me know your thoughts.



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There are so many other Pinzgauers for sale in the US. I’d buy a different one with much less mystery.


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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by Joeri » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:04 am

MY opinion....if you need parts buy it.... but for that price its way to expensive, even as it is :P

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Re: Buying this monstrosity...1983 Pinzgauer

Post by heleto » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:06 am

David Dunn wrote:
Garrycol wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:31 pm
David Dunn wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm
My personal opinion would be to buy a somewhat stock Pinzgauer if you wanted community support.
I would have hoped that if the OP did buy this vehicle even though it is not liked, the "community" would offer as much support as is possible to support the OP and his vehicle.

Pretty poor form not to offer support just because a vehicle is not to ones taste.

Garry
I am sorry that the comment was taken out of context, but what was meant was valid answers would be limited to "known" Pinzgauer components, hence a 'somewhat' stock unit preferable. As Ron had stated, I am more concerned with the heavily mod-ed parts of this truck.
Not at all. I understand what you are talking about. Thank you

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