need help pricing a 712M
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undysworld
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Re: need help pricing a 712M
I too would agree with your concern/s about returning rust. If all that new paint is just covering up a bunch of rot, don't walk away, RUN.
Re: need help pricing a 712M
The body man (whom I have met) did not as far as I know bondo or paint over the rust. He removed the rust and then bondo'ed and painted and rhino lined the vehicle. It is just my ignorant opinion that working on a rusted vehicle, one block from the ocean, outside, may be problematic for completely de-rusting and painting a vehicle because of the atmosphere water and the rain and the salt from the ocean.
Is this true?
Is this true?
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undysworld
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Re: need help pricing a 712M
Here in Wisconsin, they apply salt to the roads in the winter to melt the ice. It's a REAL problem for vehicles.
I've never lived on the shore, but have heard that there are some similarities given the salt in the air from the water. If the work is done in that environment, I'd guess you'd need to take extra precautions at a minimum. Other local body shops can probably give you better local advice on this.
From my experience, Bondo is used to fill in minor depressions and pits on intact metal. It's usually not visible from the inside, because the inside of the body is covered by the interior. Pinzgauers are different, in that what you're looking at on the inside of the truck is the inside of the body panel. You'd see most dents, so you could see where Bondo may have been used on the outside.
I had a truck that had rust holes repaired with just Bondo. From the inside, the floor looked great, but the blue goobers underneath were dead giveaways where the Bondo had oozed out. Same with the side walls - looked great from outside, but inside you could see the painted Bondo. I saw another truck with the bottom-side body support channels all filled in and rebuilt with Bondo.
IF Bondo were only used to fill in minor pitting, etc., and it was properly prepped, It's not a big deal. If it's poorly prepped or filling in big voids, that's not good, IMHO.
Others have had bad results with Rhino lining and written about it. Here's Vince's take: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10141
I've never lived on the shore, but have heard that there are some similarities given the salt in the air from the water. If the work is done in that environment, I'd guess you'd need to take extra precautions at a minimum. Other local body shops can probably give you better local advice on this.
From my experience, Bondo is used to fill in minor depressions and pits on intact metal. It's usually not visible from the inside, because the inside of the body is covered by the interior. Pinzgauers are different, in that what you're looking at on the inside of the truck is the inside of the body panel. You'd see most dents, so you could see where Bondo may have been used on the outside.
I had a truck that had rust holes repaired with just Bondo. From the inside, the floor looked great, but the blue goobers underneath were dead giveaways where the Bondo had oozed out. Same with the side walls - looked great from outside, but inside you could see the painted Bondo. I saw another truck with the bottom-side body support channels all filled in and rebuilt with Bondo.
IF Bondo were only used to fill in minor pitting, etc., and it was properly prepped, It's not a big deal. If it's poorly prepped or filling in big voids, that's not good, IMHO.
Others have had bad results with Rhino lining and written about it. Here's Vince's take: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10141