a/c
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2012
webasto ac
YES! seeing the conversions to btu's, the webastos have PLENTY of power. now i just need to know a cost for each.
it just looks like webastos are the best option for btu's as well as ease of installation. doesn't it?
it just looks like webastos are the best option for btu's as well as ease of installation. doesn't it?
Last edited by 2012 on Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
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2012
wabasto ac
dennis - still don't know the cost nfo on the 3 24v wabasto
units. is that nfo unavailable or something?
could you please let me know what's going on with this?
units. is that nfo unavailable or something?
could you please let me know what's going on with this?
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lindenengineering
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Simple answer
CC4E is $4500 ex works.
The others are POA due to the 8 to 12 weeks lead time and the shaky exchange rate of the US Dollar versus the "ever resilient" Euro, (in spite of US financial pundits forecasting its immenent fall due to high unemployment rates in the EEC etc blah blah!
Dennis
Linden Engineering Inc
CC4E is $4500 ex works.
The others are POA due to the 8 to 12 weeks lead time and the shaky exchange rate of the US Dollar versus the "ever resilient" Euro, (in spite of US financial pundits forecasting its immenent fall due to high unemployment rates in the EEC etc blah blah!
Dennis
Linden Engineering Inc
OOOps no customer bashing now
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lindenengineering
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Ex works
A term for "out of the door" from the supplier subject to additional fees such as taxes, freight, and other add on costs.
POA:- Price on application.
Used in this sense to offer something that is subject to constant change.
In this case other than the CC4E the items have to come from Germany where there is an 8 to 12 week lead time to receive it.
Due to the fact that the US Dollar is weak on the international exchange scene the US div of Webasto won't fix a price until a deposit is received.
(Anglo Saxon Law:- Offorer, Offeree and acceptance basis of a simple contract etc). At that stage a price can be fixed taking into account the exchange rate prevailing on the day of the contract, the fuel surcharges and freight etc applicable.
There are a number of places you could mount a compressor, the Onan is an economical unit, but there are others. I personally am not fond of Onan since the distributers in the RM region are Cummins Rocky Mountain. Their service dept is like talking to Crown Hill Cemetaries Mortuary department. They are all brain dead in short. Service support for the unit is very limited I would try Honda-- Now I'm talking. (or now you are talking.) Great service enthusiastic people---- Abit like me I suppose.
Dennis
A term for "out of the door" from the supplier subject to additional fees such as taxes, freight, and other add on costs.
POA:- Price on application.
Used in this sense to offer something that is subject to constant change.
In this case other than the CC4E the items have to come from Germany where there is an 8 to 12 week lead time to receive it.
Due to the fact that the US Dollar is weak on the international exchange scene the US div of Webasto won't fix a price until a deposit is received.
(Anglo Saxon Law:- Offorer, Offeree and acceptance basis of a simple contract etc). At that stage a price can be fixed taking into account the exchange rate prevailing on the day of the contract, the fuel surcharges and freight etc applicable.
There are a number of places you could mount a compressor, the Onan is an economical unit, but there are others. I personally am not fond of Onan since the distributers in the RM region are Cummins Rocky Mountain. Their service dept is like talking to Crown Hill Cemetaries Mortuary department. They are all brain dead in short. Service support for the unit is very limited I would try Honda-- Now I'm talking. (or now you are talking.) Great service enthusiastic people---- Abit like me I suppose.
Dennis
OOOps no customer bashing now
As I started this topic I will give you'all my thoughts,as I'm a big spender I will give you my 10 cents worth... I did the gen-set and a RV roof a/c on my 710K,you will get what you pay for...I opted for a 3000is Honda,elect start-very quiet. Other gen-sets are cheaper(as much as 1/4 the price) but the noise factor was a real concern to me. I built a compartment,added forced air cooling,with the roof unit it kicked butt,,quiet,you could actually sleep inside with gen-set running! 
The nagging thought was that I had an engine with it's own fuel supply running in the rear,and this was a concern when getting"frisky" 
off road. See SWPA Crown King run photos. 
I like the idea of a 24v a/c but I don't believe the electrical system will handle it "comfortably" without adding another alternator. In 2 days my engine driven A/C system will be plumbed.I think this will be super for those slow-bumpy-tippy times that we use our trucks for that also lack air flow. 
The pulley situation was handled for well under a C-Note! More 2 come,TTFN Mark
The nagging thought was that I had an engine with it's own fuel supply running in the rear,and this was a concern when getting"frisky" off road. See SWPA Crown King run photos. I like the idea of a 24v a/c but I don't believe the electrical system will handle it "comfortably" without adding another alternator. In 2 days my engine driven A/C system will be plumbed.I think this will be super for those slow-bumpy-tippy times that we use our trucks for that also lack air flow. The pulley situation was handled for well under a C-Note! More 2 come,TTFN MarkStock means no imagination!
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lindenengineering
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You are correct.
An additional alternator is required to bolster the output of the charging system if it is to stand alone without gen set operation.
The start up draw of the CC4E is in the order of 58amps. Too high for the std alternator output, it dictates the use of an additional unit sited where the a/c compressor unit would be located in a normal application.
As a foot note on dealerships. Remember the maxim, "they are only as good as the personnel that work within them".
Dennis
An additional alternator is required to bolster the output of the charging system if it is to stand alone without gen set operation.
The start up draw of the CC4E is in the order of 58amps. Too high for the std alternator output, it dictates the use of an additional unit sited where the a/c compressor unit would be located in a normal application.
As a foot note on dealerships. Remember the maxim, "they are only as good as the personnel that work within them".
Dennis
OOOps no customer bashing now
I used a Primepact 50 g
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/ ... _200028324
and pulled from the main tank as a fuel source [just like the Eberspacher heater]
Added one of these for noise and spark arresting
http://www.jackssmallengines.com/strapmain.cfm
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/ ... _200028324
and pulled from the main tank as a fuel source [just like the Eberspacher heater]
Added one of these for noise and spark arresting
http://www.jackssmallengines.com/strapmain.cfm
Foz
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2012
wow.... glad i'm not paying yall by the word. awesome free nfo - thank-you all!
question: is this "Primepact 50 g" as nice as a honda? gennie-using ppl keep telling me honda is the only way.
and can't you run a honda off the pinz fuel tank?
i'm definitely looking fwd to knowing how mark's setup works out and if it's reasonable in all ways.
i'm still sold on the 24 volt setup, so far, but it's hard to evaluate it all not knowing anything about the cost of the 2 larger units. maybe they're too heavy, anyway.
question: is this "Primepact 50 g" as nice as a honda? gennie-using ppl keep telling me honda is the only way.
and can't you run a honda off the pinz fuel tank?
i'm definitely looking fwd to knowing how mark's setup works out and if it's reasonable in all ways.
i'm still sold on the 24 volt setup, so far, but it's hard to evaluate it all not knowing anything about the cost of the 2 larger units. maybe they're too heavy, anyway.
Last edited by 2012 on Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
No noticible loss of power,just need to adj idle a bit. happy-happy-joy-joy!!! TTFN,MarkMark,
... Nothing like the feeling of completing a project like that, eh?
Congrats!
I'd love to see some pics of the completed job if you have them posted somewhere.
A bit off-topic, I checked out the Crown King photos... Ouch!
Did you need any body work done after getting her back on her feet?
... Nothing like the feeling of completing a project like that, eh?
Congrats!I'd love to see some pics of the completed job if you have them posted somewhere.
A bit off-topic, I checked out the Crown King photos... Ouch!
Did you need any body work done after getting her back on her feet?
~ TW ~
'73 710K
'73 710K
