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twin pinz - what's your location? what pinz do you have?

I live in Telluride, Colorado. I own Telluride Offroad Adventures (a 4x4 tour company that uses 710M's.)

www.tellurideoffroad.com

nice place! i rode my mt bike thru there (on a detour rather) on my way from flagstaff, az, relocating to boulder.

Where do you live?

i was about to tell you about me, then i noticed the subject you added:

"bullshit"?

WHAT'S UP?

Hey Guys,
Funny to see how this post has morphed!
Anyhoo, I have to fall somewhere in the middle on the traction / safety on snow and ice...

Yes, on very icy roads (with no chains) at unsafe speeds (this is not a Pinz issue) on steep down grades the Pinz is a scary vehicle. This is not really a Pinz specific issue as all vehicles are a bit scary in this situation, but Twin is right that the cab forward with no driver protection, light back-end and zippo safety features can make for some white knuckles on occassion.

Having said that, I think the Pinz is awesome in the snow. One of the best vehicles I have used in the snow as a matter of fact. When I say snow, I mean SNOW. Not a light dusting on the highway to make stuff slick, but rather 3 feet of fluffy or sticky stuff out on the trail (or pulling folks outta the ditch)...

Let's face it: If you're looking for a high speed, highway vehicle, the Pinz is NOT it (yes I do drive it to work on occassion on highway and I love it). This is especially true if you are looking for a high-speed, highway vehicle that is safe on ice (that's a tall order for any truck). Basic point: Keep the speed down, take the Pinz off-road and enjoy it!

Somebody here mentioned the concept of "Pinz Time" where everything slows down. I like that philosophy and live it when I drive.

Seeya

does anyone know who 75pinz is?

he wrote "bullshit" in his subject in reply to my post.

i wanna know whats up, in a non-vague way.

anybody know this guy?

bryan? maybe i could give you a call at 712-301-3835 when i pass thru iowa in a coupe weeks?

Time to get that 55 gal. plastic drum and fill it with water in the back! Winter is not far off...

Sand bags work beter, and they don't tend to slosh

An extra differential and set of wheels also work

I was referring to Twin pinz's or whatever. I have neer driven a better vehicle in the snow than a Pinz. Particularly the 6x6 I have now. People who drive in snow all the time know how to do it and the Pinz does great.

The pinz does very well in slow speed snow driving. The high clearance makes it a natural. Fortunately it is underpowered, which keeps you from getting stuck too bad. In deep heavy snow (16 inches or more ) you will run out of power, but you can back up and hit it at a higher speed.
The pictures I posted show a road I was trying to go down. The snow was about 16 inches deep and heavily crusted. I could only make it about 30 feet before just spinning the tires. I had about 1400 lbs of weight ( the cattle feeder weighs about 800 lbs and there was about 600 lbs of feed) in the back.

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Twin Pinzies wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...
...Pinzies are SCARY on snow and ice!

With high centers of gravity, drum brakes, tippy suspension design, lockers (that incourage wheel slip!), a precarious driver position, no crumple zones, and weak bumpers, I would much rather be in a Subaru(traction control, airbags, antilock brakes, low mass, etc.) on slick roads! Don't get me wrong, I'm not trashing on Pinzies in general-but to say that they are GOOD in snow and ice is silly!

Don't believe me? Go see for yourself!

hi lived in evergreen co. most of my life snow and ice can be scarey in any truck. keep in mind the
pinzgauer is a old truck. triers do mater. if in open dif. and in 4x4 my pinz is awesome in the snow and ice. its all about the driver ya put chains on all four and see what happens.

robert flanagan wrote:

Twin Pinzies wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...
...Pinzies are SCARY on snow and ice!

With high centers of gravity, drum brakes, tippy suspension design, lockers (that incourage wheel slip!), a precarious driver position, no crumple zones, and weak bumpers, I would much rather be in a Subaru(traction control, airbags, antilock brakes, low mass, etc.) on slick roads! Don't get me wrong, I'm not trashing on Pinzies in general-but to say that they are GOOD in snow and ice is silly!

Don't believe me? Go see for yourself!

hi lived in evergreen co. most of my life snow and ice can be scarey in any truck. keep in mind the
pinzgauer is a old truck. triers do mater. if in open dif. and in 4x4 my pinz is awesome in the snow and ice. its all about the driver ya put chains on all four and see what happens.

I have a set of Mattracks built custom for the Pinz. After testing them last winter, I have to say that any wheeled vehicle is a fish out of water in snow.

Twin Pinzies- So you liked the tracks? How did they effect steering ability?Have any pictures of your truck with the tracks on in use? I have been looking forward to hearing about you findings since you posted that you have ordered them. Sorry to pull us in a different direction.