A trip like this would have all sorts of possibities. Apparently entrance to the National Park is now $20.00 for a 7 day pass and if I'm reading it right 10 bucks a head.
I think if this is going to happen we need some ideas about what everyone wants to do.
1) Do we do the campout thing? Where, in the park or outside the park?
2) How much backcountry driving do we want to do and how challenging of a trail? Right now I have no idea if the longest one can be done in a day or in a reasonable amount of time to get back to where we overnight.
3) Does everyone want to do the National Park or Big Bend Ranch or try both?
4) Any interest in visitor centers (museum type stuff) or checking out Terlingua and Lajitas?
5) The river road from Study Butte to Presidio is paved and pretty. I remember some hills there that will probably be 3rd gear jobs.
6) Do we want to do some sort of a group meal on one evening or would it be every Pinz for itself?
I have more questions than I have answers.
This would be a really cool thing to do. If we can make it work it would open the door to more group trips with my hope of eventually joining SWPA or Rocky Mountain Pinzgauers on one of their adventures. Once we got out act together we might even be able to invite them to something in Texas.
Just my opinion.
PS: Somebody invite a mechanic.
Andy
Big Bend National Park
What would ya'll think about staging in Lajitas? The hotel there is nice. I called them today, they have rooms in June but we would need to know shortly about how many will be needed. Things have gotten cheeper there since I was there last June. Food was good, service was good, and it sits right between the state park and national park. Also golf if anyone felt the need. Also a store, movie theater and pool for the wife and kids if they wanted to lay low for a day.
I am not set on this I would also be willing to camp in a tent if that was the popular idea. I just want to go have fun and hope the phone does not work.
I am not set on this I would also be willing to camp in a tent if that was the popular idea. I just want to go have fun and hope the phone does not work.
Thank you,
Shawn Fluitt
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210-413-0340
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Okay, we've hem-hahed around on this long enough. How about if you're interested in doing this first we give everyone a tentative yes here. This wouldn't be just for Texas people, anyone can come, but we need some idea of potentially how many vehicles and people we are talking about.
We also need some idea of what everyone wants to do. Do you want to spend more time wheeling on back roads or have short backroad trips with more time to see stuff out in the Lajitas/Terlingua area either solo or as a group?
The hotel in the Park and the one at Lajitas both appear to be running $100 plus a night. The campground in the park runs $14 a night after paying $20 for the 7 day pass and I think $10 a head. Not sure, but am willing to call once we see if people are serious. There maybe other accomodations in Study Butte.
How many days can you hangout there? Figure at least a day going to the park and a day going home. It is a long way from anywhere.
Since this hasn't been done and nobody really knows each other except through this site or over on yahoo should we have like a meet and greet deal the first night with maybe a cookout?
C'mon folks, speak up, I'd like to see a good turn out and try to make sure everyone has a good time and has at least some of their desires met.
Let's hear it.
Andy
We also need some idea of what everyone wants to do. Do you want to spend more time wheeling on back roads or have short backroad trips with more time to see stuff out in the Lajitas/Terlingua area either solo or as a group?
The hotel in the Park and the one at Lajitas both appear to be running $100 plus a night. The campground in the park runs $14 a night after paying $20 for the 7 day pass and I think $10 a head. Not sure, but am willing to call once we see if people are serious. There maybe other accomodations in Study Butte.
How many days can you hangout there? Figure at least a day going to the park and a day going home. It is a long way from anywhere.
Since this hasn't been done and nobody really knows each other except through this site or over on yahoo should we have like a meet and greet deal the first night with maybe a cookout?
C'mon folks, speak up, I'd like to see a good turn out and try to make sure everyone has a good time and has at least some of their desires met.
Let's hear it.
Andy
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Andy,
I would be interested--depending on the date. I have about 2 more weeks of calving heifers. The cows start around April 1 and finish around June 1. Makes it kind of hard to get away, but I will try to make it work!
I will keep up with the thread.
Surely the Arizona boys will chime in on this (mjnms).
john
I would be interested--depending on the date. I have about 2 more weeks of calving heifers. The cows start around April 1 and finish around June 1. Makes it kind of hard to get away, but I will try to make it work!
I will keep up with the thread.
Surely the Arizona boys will chime in on this (mjnms).
john
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I'll give a pretty sound yes as for going if it's in the later part of june as sometime around the 1st we are going to the baja 500 but other than that I'm open for length and events would probably bring a friend or two depending on who wants to go.
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Thomas
Thomas
big bend
Sounds like the end of June to me. I was at both Lajitas and the hotel at the National Park last June. For the money Lajitas is much better. Also avalability is better, food is better.
I have been in contact with a few Pinzies around the state and will try to spread the word.
Are we going to invite anyone besides pinz owners? Might get a better turn out.
We need to act fast to get rooms at Lajitas if that is where we are going they have some weddings going on at that time.
I have been in contact with a few Pinzies around the state and will try to spread the word.
Are we going to invite anyone besides pinz owners? Might get a better turn out.
We need to act fast to get rooms at Lajitas if that is where we are going they have some weddings going on at that time.
Thank you,
Shawn Fluitt
Timekeepers Inc.
Oil Field Gate Attendants Inc.
Tier One Security Inc.
210-413-0340
75 710k
Vegetarian:
Indian word for lousey hunter!
Shawn Fluitt
Timekeepers Inc.
Oil Field Gate Attendants Inc.
Tier One Security Inc.
210-413-0340
75 710k
Vegetarian:
Indian word for lousey hunter!
I think it wouldn't hurt to make it open to everybody that wants to go. However, for wheeling in both the National and State Parks it tells you very plainly that the vehicles have to be licensed for road use and have at least 4 wheels. If someone has a duece or a Jeep that's fine, but the guy with the rock crawler will probably be left in the lurch.
I think the key to this would be meeting the people who are on the other side of the screen, the personalities, likes, dislikes, talents, abilities, capabilities, to see if it can be made to grow.
I think June is starting to look like the month. Right now we are anywhere from the 1st to the end of June. It doesn't much matter to me, (right now), but plan on it being hot with possibly some pretty stout thunderstorms building up in the afternoons.
If I can suggest it, over the next couple of days query Big Bend National Park, it'll be the one under nps.gov and also Big Bend State Park. That will be the one from Texas Parks and Wildlife. Both can at least provide a broad overview of what some of the off roading would be like and there are some pictures too.
Andy
I think the key to this would be meeting the people who are on the other side of the screen, the personalities, likes, dislikes, talents, abilities, capabilities, to see if it can be made to grow.
I think June is starting to look like the month. Right now we are anywhere from the 1st to the end of June. It doesn't much matter to me, (right now), but plan on it being hot with possibly some pretty stout thunderstorms building up in the afternoons.
If I can suggest it, over the next couple of days query Big Bend National Park, it'll be the one under nps.gov and also Big Bend State Park. That will be the one from Texas Parks and Wildlife. Both can at least provide a broad overview of what some of the off roading would be like and there are some pictures too.
Andy
Hey, I got a super reply to my query on how to do this from Steve over on the Southwest Pinzgauer site. Their site is: www.SWPinzgauer.org. My query and his reply are under the misc category.
Something I posted there and that might impact here re: Staging area.
I haven't been able to find a campground in Lajitas. I'm wondering about how quickly $100.00 plus a night, at least one restaurant/cafe meal a day, and local fuel prices will add up.
Lajitas is also closer to the State Park than the National Park. From just my readings it appears the State Park can only accomdate smaller groups if you want to stop somewhere.
I'm suggesting Study Butte or the National Park as the place to stage. There are camping areas at both. If we have people who trailer their Pinz in we need to consider where they are going to leave the tow vehicle and the trailer while out in the Pinz. That might eliminate the National Park.
Just a general thought. If we make this a two or three day deal. Stage at or near Study Butte/Terlingua. That would make the National Park an easy place to see on day one for wheeling. Then on day two we could maybe convoy up to Lajitas and the State Park. I'm hoping that would be entertaining for those who come along that aren't really all that enthused about the bouncing, jostling, and dust from off roading in the Pinz. It would also provide at least more than the illusion of security for unattended tow vehicles and trailers.
Again, anyone from any Pinz group or solo with a vehicle that can make the roads is more than welcome to come and if you have knowledge of the area or recent experience out there please chime in.
Andy
Something I posted there and that might impact here re: Staging area.
I haven't been able to find a campground in Lajitas. I'm wondering about how quickly $100.00 plus a night, at least one restaurant/cafe meal a day, and local fuel prices will add up.
Lajitas is also closer to the State Park than the National Park. From just my readings it appears the State Park can only accomdate smaller groups if you want to stop somewhere.
I'm suggesting Study Butte or the National Park as the place to stage. There are camping areas at both. If we have people who trailer their Pinz in we need to consider where they are going to leave the tow vehicle and the trailer while out in the Pinz. That might eliminate the National Park.
Just a general thought. If we make this a two or three day deal. Stage at or near Study Butte/Terlingua. That would make the National Park an easy place to see on day one for wheeling. Then on day two we could maybe convoy up to Lajitas and the State Park. I'm hoping that would be entertaining for those who come along that aren't really all that enthused about the bouncing, jostling, and dust from off roading in the Pinz. It would also provide at least more than the illusion of security for unattended tow vehicles and trailers.
Again, anyone from any Pinz group or solo with a vehicle that can make the roads is more than welcome to come and if you have knowledge of the area or recent experience out there please chime in.
Andy
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I would suggest the group be based in Study Butte as there are motels and gas stations there. (A few folks who can handle a welding torch too I suspect.) Also, the volunteer medical support / ambulance service for the region is based there. Several restaurants exist in the old ghost town in Terlingua or you can boot over the Lajitas if so inclinded. This is also a good central starting point for access to both Big Bend National Park and also Big Bend Ranch State Park.
As I mentioned peviously, I'll be out there in June but it will be a road cycling trip so it's going to be more lycra and less green canvas. We'll be up in the Fort Davis area which is close by Big Bend standards but still about 120 miles north.
I can suggest local contacts for trail support, suggestions and guidance if you PM me.
As I mentioned peviously, I'll be out there in June but it will be a road cycling trip so it's going to be more lycra and less green canvas. We'll be up in the Fort Davis area which is close by Big Bend standards but still about 120 miles north.
I can suggest local contacts for trail support, suggestions and guidance if you PM me.
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I can offer up places to stash tow vehicles too....
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Why don't we shoot for the first weekend in June. It may not be as hot as later in the month. In Big Bend this might be realitive, but it works on paper. Go on trails on Friday and Sat. so everyone can head home on Sunday.
Will this work?
Will this work?
Thank you,
Shawn Fluitt
Timekeepers Inc.
Oil Field Gate Attendants Inc.
Tier One Security Inc.
210-413-0340
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Vegetarian:
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Shawn Fluitt
Timekeepers Inc.
Oil Field Gate Attendants Inc.
Tier One Security Inc.
210-413-0340
75 710k
Vegetarian:
Indian word for lousey hunter!
Since my last post, I have picked up some literature about Big Bend
National Park at the Park Service facility in Del Rio.
If I get the opportunity to do a pre-run, my intention is to take the
Glenn Spring road south to the Black Gap Road (which is supposed to be
a fairly tough 4 wheel drive road) to where it joins the River Road.
From there I will cut back basically Northeast along the River Road and
follow it to where it meets with the Glenn Springs road and they become
one and continue back to the paved park road just before one gets to
Rio Grande Village.
Given the literature's definition of high clearence and 4 wheel drive
roads there should be something on this proposed route to suit
everyone's needs or desires.
There is a lot of information about these roads at the Big Bend
website. www.nps.gov/bibe. Or just query Big Bend National Park if
anyone wants to get a better idea of what I am trying to say.
Because of the lack of negative feedback to the suggestion that we
stage out of Study Butte I think there is a concensus that that will be
okay. I will be calling the motel with the RV park and camping
facilities in the next few days and try to get some price quotes for
lodging or camping. I'll post both here and at the Yahoo group when I
finally get around to it.
Andy
National Park at the Park Service facility in Del Rio.
If I get the opportunity to do a pre-run, my intention is to take the
Glenn Spring road south to the Black Gap Road (which is supposed to be
a fairly tough 4 wheel drive road) to where it joins the River Road.
From there I will cut back basically Northeast along the River Road and
follow it to where it meets with the Glenn Springs road and they become
one and continue back to the paved park road just before one gets to
Rio Grande Village.
Given the literature's definition of high clearence and 4 wheel drive
roads there should be something on this proposed route to suit
everyone's needs or desires.
There is a lot of information about these roads at the Big Bend
website. www.nps.gov/bibe. Or just query Big Bend National Park if
anyone wants to get a better idea of what I am trying to say.
Because of the lack of negative feedback to the suggestion that we
stage out of Study Butte I think there is a concensus that that will be
okay. I will be calling the motel with the RV park and camping
facilities in the next few days and try to get some price quotes for
lodging or camping. I'll post both here and at the Yahoo group when I
finally get around to it.
Andy