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Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:35 pm
by pcolette
Here's a link to a 2010 thread on this topic:
viewtopic.php?t=5177
Also if you do a Google search on Pinzgauer tow bar, there are some informative results.
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:25 pm
by David Dunn
DO NOT ATTEMPT to tow with a Single bar, you'll have no control of the towed vehicle, as soon as you attempt to slow down the towed vehicle will not track and go whatever direction it wants, taking the rear of the tow vehicle with it.
The bar used by Mogs are for daisy chaining all vehicles with drivers for traction and pulling power, not to tow a disabled vehicle
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:58 pm
by edzz
We commonly used "tow pipes" during my days in the USMC. They were only used at low speeds maybe 5 mph and with a man on the steering and breaks of the vehicle being towed (or pushed).
This method was only used on the tarmac or in the yard at very low speeds to transport a "dead" vehicle to repair site or to storage.
They can be used with the powered vehicle in front to tow the dead one or in back to push the dead one. NOT for road use.
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:56 pm
by Garrycol
I agree - single tow bar is only to be used for a tow recovery or moving a vehicle over a small distance with a driver in the towed vehicle - is an alternative to a flexible tow rope in some circumstances.
Best to put on a trailer but with appropriate preparation a A frame could be used with a brake activation system installed.
Garry
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:53 am
by audiocontr
man-o-war wrote:Yes i swapped benz diesel into both of my trucks

Id like to see more photos of this!
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:56 am
by man-o-war
Makes sense guys....when braking at they will tend to jacknife damn it. Back to the drawing board i will figure this out....don't feel like owning a tow truck

Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:04 am
by man-o-war
audiocontr wrote:man-o-war wrote:Yes i swapped benz diesel into both of my trucks

Id like to see more photos of this!
Horrible gas mileage, points ignition issues and frequent carb sync did it for me. I tried to simplify things.
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:29 pm
by Texas710
Okay, as promised. This is how my truck's PO did it.
It's a pretty sweet set up, sits just off the bumper and has some rubber pads that cushion between it and the bumper. Has a receptacle for a square hitch as well. The two tow bars rotate at their attachments, so slight differences in bumper height should not be too much of a problem. I have never used it, but am afraid of taking it out of the truck, cause I see the value in it, so it just lives in the back for now.
I Personally would not use this for any sort of highway use. You are putting your truck and others peoples lives at risk based on how good the welder/fabricator was. I could see this used for recovery, broke down on the trail or light off road use only. That said, this is Merica and do what ever the hell you want.
Disclaimer: I am not condoning or sanctioning this in any way, just showing you how another yahoo did it.
My suggestion, get a buddy you trust who can drive the other truck!
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:26 pm
by Garrycol
That is a standard A frame arrangement that works well when set up correctly. They are often used by big bus style RVs here to tow their smaller run around car. In Australia the brakes on the vehicle being towed must operate with the brakes in the towing vehicle and small units that do this are freely available - lights etc as per any van/vehicle being towed also must function.
The A frame requires govt engineering approval - type certification.
an example
http://www.northcoach.com.au/ready-brute-elite-a-frame/
Garry
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:49 pm
by man-o-war
Looks great Texas710. Thanks for the pics. I will try to get something like that fabricated. If i cant get this figured out iwill just sell one truck haha
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:38 pm
by Texas710
Yep, simple enough, just use someone good for the fabrication. If you look closely, where the pin sits is shaped so that it kind of locks in there, like the one on the bumper.
Honestly, if you can do diesel conversions, you might have a future in that.
I know I would be interested in seeing a new post on how you did that, I always wondered how you get the clutch/transmission to line up with a different engine.
Anyways, always happy to help, good luck.
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:11 pm
by Haf-e
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:24 pm
by TechMOGogy
Very interesting find

Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:51 pm
by krick3tt
Doesn't look to be air cooled. Where is the radiator located? I have seen some that place it where the battery box is and relocating the battery but that, I'm sure has issues with stream fording.
I like the idea of increased torque and better milage from diesel, also greater availability for diesel.
Re: Tow pipe?
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:15 pm
by TechMOGogy
I think the point of Haf-e's post was to point out that the photo posted by man-o-war is the same as the one posted over in Europe in the for sale ad
Sumting knot rite here