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Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 12:09 am
by westernair
I don't like the way it is mounted. Ill pull it and maybe remount it. I have it in my aluminum box in the back but think between the two rear wheels would be a better spot.
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:03 am
by stiffler4444
Jimm391730 wrote:The only thing that I've had problems with in the Pinz is sand. Trying to climb a sand dune is not something it seems to be happy doing.
Sand ALWAYS benifits from low tire pressure, sometimes down into the single digits in the really soft stuff. It is testament to the capabilities of the Pinz if you did what you did with street air pressure, as many don't bother to air down for sand.
I once helped a 1 ton 2WD work van escape from being stuck in the sand by doing nothing more than insisting that he keep lowering the tire pressure until he drove away under his own power (my little 4x4 at the time wasn't up to yanking him out). You should have seen the grin on his face when he found out that the van could cruise on the beach with just low pressure (around 12psi, IIRC) in the tires.
Thanks for the tip. It makes sense to me, as my old Zuk Samurai used to have no issues, but it also had 33 / 13.5" swampers on it, giving a nice wide footprint. The airing down will achieve the same effect I suppose. As soon as she's up and running again, I'll test this out!
tx Dave
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:29 am
by Twin Pinzies
Careful airing down too much. A Pinzgauer's suspension puts tons of lateral stress on the tire's bead. You certainly can't go as low as you can with a solid axle rig.
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:01 pm
by berger
My tray is in rough shape and because the batteries are not the same or parallel, I drilled two holes in the tray and made my own. This is a temp solution as I want to get the original config.

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Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:24 pm
by krick3tt
Good go at making an odd situation work for you.
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:14 am
by Jimm391730
Berger, make sure you charge each battery individually with a 12V charger every month or you will be buying a matching set sooner than you plan to! You can use two chargers and do both at the same time; and you don't even need to disconnect the battery leads. Just pay attention to the polarity of each charger to each battery.
With two different batteries, they will have different capacities and one will get discharged more than the other. Because of the way lead acid batteries work, the more discharged one will get LESS charge then the one with more charge; so one gets more and more discharged, the other gets over charged. Monthly equalizing will help to prevent this from happening.
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:59 pm
by Doccers
Winter Beater wrote:come visit Colorado, the Jeep will not want to follow you (unless heavily modified).
RMP Treffen 3rd week in July. 2013 will be held in Leadville, CO.
It'll put the lead in your pencil

Will us poor Volvo guys be invited?

Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:02 am
by berger
Jimm391730 wrote:Berger, make sure you charge each battery individually with a 12V charger every month or you will be buying a matching set sooner than you plan to! You can use two chargers and do both at the same time; and you don't even need to disconnect the battery leads. Just pay attention to the polarity of each charger to each battery.
With two different batteries, they will have different capacities and one will get discharged more than the other. Because of the way lead acid batteries work, the more discharged one will get LESS charge then the one with more charge; so one gets more and more discharged, the other gets over charged. Monthly equalizing will help to prevent this from happening.
I was wondering that when I first got the truck....but I haven't had any issues :?: . I have had the truck for over a year now, didn't trickle them over the winter (just started the truck every month) and they continue to function.
I do plan on replacing them eventually, but batteries ain't cheap!

Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:44 am
by undysworld
berger wrote: batteries ain't cheap!
Nope, that's why Jimmy gave you the advice to charge each battery separately. Given the different batteries and almost guaranteed differences between them, the charge disparity will almost certainly occur. I'd say you've been lucky, so far.
Typically in a situation like yours, one battery will just go completely and irreversibly dead, all of a sudden. (Hmmm, wonder how I know this...)
If you're trying to keep your existing batteries alive for as long as possible, Jimmy's suggestion is mandatory, IMHO. I do it seasonally, even though I've got two new Optimas from the same manufacturing batch! As you observed, they ain't cheap!!
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:50 am
by berger
Is the "Group 27" the best size battery for the Pinz?
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:19 am
by undysworld
Can't help you there. I got the biggest, highest CCA rated batteries I could fit into the truck. No idea what group that would be.
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:26 am
by pcolette
berger wrote:Is the "Group 27" the best size battery for the Pinz?
Yup, that's the size I've always used. There are minor variations in actual dimensions from manufacturer to manufacturer.
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:56 am
by berger
pcolette wrote:berger wrote:Is the "Group 27" the best size battery for the Pinz?
Yup, that's the size I've always used. There are minor variations in actual dimensions from manufacturer to manufacturer.
Thanks!
Might keep my eyes open for a sale.
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:21 am
by TechMOGogy
I've always liked this idea
Re: Offroading advice
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:51 pm
by eToothpaste
Great thread; I wish I would have read through it a couple hours ago! I just got back from a short trip where I felt the 2-wheel teeter for the first time! I puckered so hard it might take a week before I can sit comfortably again. It was on a downhill, rocky sandstone road with a steep drop off to the right. The road goes between the two juniper trees.
I just eased it into reverse and took a different trail, but I was bummed I chickened out before I made it to the river.
What is the proper technique when on 2 or three wheels? I had 4wd and rear locked, but realize now I should have front locked also. Get a spotter and take it slow?