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Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:21 am
by Adventurewagon
Hello all. I am considering becoming a distributor for these amazing sand ladders. This post is to gauge interest in them before I bite the bullet.
These are reenforced so they don’t bend.
Specs
Roughly 5’x16”
Weight 9.5kg each track.
Sold in pairs
$475 plus shipping.
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Re: Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:48 am
by Mr Zero
As someone who uses sand ladders regularly my impression is that though that product appears to be of high quality, they are both too heavy and too expensive. The numerous plastic sand ladders available allow you to carry twice as many ladders at a fraction of the weight and less than half the price. Even if you do need to replace 1 or 2 of the plastic ladders every few years they're easier to work with due to the lesser weight. The aluminum ladders that you're presenting look like a good option for someone who wants a lasting quality item for infrequent use.
My 2¢.
Re: Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:10 am
by rmel
Kind'a with Mr. Zero on this one.
As a sand ladder there are cheaper and useful alternatives such as Maxtrac.
As a bridge it just does not look robust enough. The manufactures WEB site
here
https://sandladder.net/, I think the test kind'a shows this would be
a bit dicey as a bridge.
I went with Fibergratting, 2" x 12" x 48" and spec'd for heavy loads, e.g.
0.3" deflection with a point load of 1,000 lbs. failure at higher loading.
Re: Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:56 pm
by VinceAtReal4x4s
These look like nice versions of that overall design but I'm with them. Weight and material type is a huge factor when it comes to safety and ease of handling. 40 lbs under your arm when you are on a steep 30-degree trail, with mud, loose shale, sand or boulders under your feet, becomes really tough to deal with. I've also seen tests that prove the traction you get on these is pretty poor when compared to the plastic versions. They are a little like steel cable on winches- Sure there are specific moments where it might be better but synthetic rope is overwhelmingly easier to live with, way safer, much less fatiguing and is becoming far stronger.
Personally I'd only go for one of three brands. Maxtrax (Aus. made), Tred-Pro (what I carry, Aus. made) and the new Action Trax (USA made with special Dupont polymer). The rest are all Chinese copies made of cheaper plastic and not worth investing in if you plan to actually use them, not to mention, more crap from China!
Re: Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:42 pm
by Adventurewagon
Mr Zero wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:48 am
As someone who uses sand ladders regularly my impression is that though that product appears to be of high quality, they are both too heavy and too expensive. The numerous plastic sand ladders available allow you to carry twice as many ladders at a fraction of the weight and less than half the price. Even if you do need to replace 1 or 2 of the plastic ladders every few years they're easier to work with due to the lesser weight. The aluminum ladders that you're presenting look like a good option for someone who wants a lasting quality item for infrequent use.
My 2¢.
I respect your opinion.
Re: Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:45 pm
by Adventurewagon
rmel wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:10 am
Kind'a with Mr. Zero on this one.
As a sand ladder there are cheaper and useful alternatives such as Maxtrac.
As a bridge it just does not look robust enough. The manufactures WEB site
here
https://sandladder.net/, I think the test kind'a shows this would be
a bit dicey as a bridge.
I went with Fibergratting, 2" x 12" x 48" and spec'd for heavy loads, e.g.
0.3" deflection with a point load of 1,000 lbs. failure at higher loading.
What you are seeing is the non reenforced product.
The 5’ reenforced version is rated at a gap of 1meter and 4 tons.
It would be impossible to bridge with plastic.
Re: Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:55 pm
by Adventurewagon
VinceAtReal4x4s wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:56 pm
These look like nice versions of that overall design but I'm with them. Weight and material type is a huge factor when it comes to safety and ease of handling. 40 lbs under your arm when you are on a steep 30-degree trail, with mud, loose shale, sand or boulders under your feet, becomes really tough to deal with. I've also seen tests that prove the traction you get on these is pretty poor when compared to the plastic versions. They are a little like steel cable on winches- Sure there are specific moments where it might be better but synthetic rope is overwhelmingly easier to live with, way safer, much less fatiguing and is becoming far stronger.
Personally I'd only go for one of three brands. Maxtrax (Aus. made), Tred-Pro (what I carry, Aus. made) and the new Action Trax (USA made with special Dupont polymer). The rest are all Chinese copies made of cheaper plastic and not worth investing in if you plan to actually use them, not to mention, more crap from China!
The maxtrax extreme are 40lbs
Action and Tred pro are 18-20 and pair. They will not bridge.
These aluminum reenforced at 5’ are rated for 1 meter gap at 4 tons.
Re: Reenforced Aluminum Sand Ladders
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:32 am
by Adventurewagon
Mr_p016 wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:32 am
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