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I love the idea that I can remove the window portion of each door but...
The part of the door that becomes the window sill is pretty unsightly.
Has anyone ever tried covers for the portion of the door so that a passenger doesn't get a fore arm full of smutch?
( I know that I can clean it, yada yada.)
I will investigate vinyl channels use in vinyl siding.

Any suggestions?

Brian
1973 712M

Brian M. made pads that ran the edge of the top of the doortop. I believe they had tubes that used the the holes for the original door top. Beats burning your arm on the metal.

Dave Dunn

Here's an idea I've been playing with:



The top of the door will fold down pulling the arm rest pad tight over the top of the edges. The whole window section will still be able to be removed if needed.

Miles

damn, that is a nice drawing! did you scan that or do it with a tablet?

2012...Just a hand sketch scaned, I've never found a tablet that allowed true fluid movement and pressure. Plus its like being in a time warp with the delay, even if it is only a small delay, it stops the flow of the sketch.

Miles

Miles
The 716 Shorty had a fixed window that folded over like that.... the problem is that you are putting the window in harms way of tree branches, rocks and everything else outside the truck off road. Also the first to go in ITO.

Dave Dunn

very nice drawing

David...The windows will be up in any rough terrain, there's nothing that will ruin your day faster than having appendages outside of the cab during a tip over.

I just don't want to take the windows off and on all the time. Plus the little sliding windows really suck at the drive through.

I'm also designing a roll bar skeleton door for desert travel.


Miles

Cool idea Miles, neat drawing too.
My windows pull out completely so I will look into a pad or cover that can be placed over the sill on a temporary basis.

Off to Home Depot!

Brian
1973 712M

The 716 Shorty had a fixed window that folded over like that

Here's a pic of what Dave's talking about.... (I think from memory I've seen the same thing on some of the UK Military LR's)

i'm actually looking into designing or obtaining this kind of window. any help would be xlnt.

Peter...Thanks for the Pic. Would you know of a picture that shows better detail of the mechanism that holds the window section in the upright / closed position? Or if anyone has a setup like the 716 Shorty window, could you please post some pics.

Miles

Miles
I can check the Magna Steyr parts manual for any reference to them, but they are probably a non catalog item. The truck pictured is a P90, ( a chassis from 1990 to '93, though you can never tell when it left the factory )

I'm not sure of the hinges, but the latches would be something like what is used on toolchests or like the clip for the Haffy's ws frame.

Like your drawing above, the folding point is about 3" above the waistline of the truck. The TD's doors are straight at that point, and I would probably have a good guess at saying that the door tops has a plate with posts that mount into the door bottom, that allows easy removal and adjustment of the door tops angle and position . Remember that the name and basic shape is all the 716/18 have in common with the 710/12, doors are made entirely different.
I would not use a piano hinge for the pivot, they will tend to bend and pull with the weight of the door top.... a pair of "slip-in" hinges would do a good job.
If you're going to Calico, I could show you the different stress points on the frame, and how to reinforce them....there is more to hinging than one would think ( at least doing it right).

Dave Dunn