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Rubber Rub Rails

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:58 pm
by Pinz Enthusiast
Anybody have any info or a line on the rubber rub rails, CWR has or can get them but with all the troubles we all have had lately I dont want to go there, infact the old lady told me impahticaly that CWR was off limits to me untill they get it together, (sorry had to clean the language up incase some youngsters were reading) thinking of checking out SAV as they have 716/718 parts listed just curious if anybody has run across them?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:17 pm
by David Dunn
716/18 used wood rub rails also, just taller to cover the slightly wider track

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:51 pm
by Erik712m
David. On the front of your rub rail how is the down slope attached is it one peace of wood or is there more srcews

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:38 pm
by Boelt63A
several people have used TREX with great results. All you need is a table saw to cut the angles

Chuck

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:49 pm
by David Dunn
Erik
The piece on the downslope is nutserted and bolted to the body, and the pieces are also drilled and pegged into the horizonal piece . The horizonal rub pieces are not handed ( I swapped the left for the right side, a groove had been worn into the wood from the previous drivers sliding out over the wood :lol: )

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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:50 pm
by Profpinz
I read "somewhere" (in my library of Pinzgauer information) that SDP put a lot of thought into the material for the side rub rails.

SDP have often been criticised for choosing wood over more "modern" materials, but there research showed that it was the most applicable for that particular situation.
When the Pinzgauer brushed against an object, (tree, rock etc) rubber rails tend to grip and slew the vehicle off-line.
Harder materials like aluminium had no give so forces were directly transmitted to the bodywork resulting in damage, but wood had a certain ammount of "cushioning" and was less likely to grip than rubber, so it slid along the object. It was also cheaper and therefore sacrificial!

Those original Pinzgauer designers sure were smart people!

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:11 pm
by Boelt63A
As always we tend to think we are smarter than those whose job depended on being clever

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:41 pm
by russ
Profpinz wrote:I read "somewhere" (in my library of Pinzgauer information) that SDP put a lot of thought into the material for the side rub rails.

SDP have often been criticised for choosing wood over more "modern" materials, but there research showed that it was the most applicable for that particular situation.
When the Pinzgauer brushed against an object, (tree, rock etc) rubber rails tend to grip and slew the vehicle off-line.
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Those original Pinzgauer designers sure were smart people!
That's why i chose trex, benefit of wood but without the rot. Was tired of growing mushrooms :D

Those angled rails look like they might catch stuff that could tear them off. I guess they're holding up ok from the look of them...

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:13 pm
by Erik712m
Thanks david I might copy if you don't mind, also do you have any close ups of your air intake I am working on one at the present. sorry to change the subject as I know Jim hates it but I noticed your's

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:49 pm
by russ
Erik Maybee wrote:Thanks david I might copy if you don't mind, also do you have any close ups of your air intake I am working on one at the present. sorry to change the subject as I know Jim hates it but I noticed your's
I also have a snorkel:

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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:24 pm
by David Dunn
Russ
Pinzgauer is still using these same rub rails on current 716/18s. These go back to the P80s and making them road legal in Europe. The laws require that the tires are within the bodyworks, since the axles are slightly longer, enlarging the rub rail was the easiest solution.

Erik, the raised air intake is the stock one for the 716, as are the rails.
I can make a pdf of those pages in the parts manual and email them to you next week.

Dave Dunn