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Stuck Choke and Gas pedal

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:37 pm
by LibTimothy
I jumped into the Pinz last night and found that I could not move the choke lever. The gas pedal was also not moving. I removed the service panel and fiddled around with the linkage (At least I think I fiddled with it, it was pretty dark). Now the choke is stuck halfway out and the gas pedal was half way down. And I still can't start it.

Now it was cold out (about 14 degrees) (felt like the inside of a cryogenic chamber) but I have run her this cold before.

I will have time and (hopefully) warmer weather on Saturday to pull the cover and look at all the linkages. All I need to know is..... What am I looking for? Could it be just too cold? (Say it ain't so!)

Thanks in advance!

Timothy
'74 712M

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:21 pm
by Kiwibru
Just a poke in the dark here...
Have you made sure the manual throttle pull lever is not in locked condition? There are oil/lube access ports on the cables so you could squirt some nice thin lube into them as a second attempt to free them...assuming they are frozen up.
I will now turn on the lights...

14?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:02 pm
by 75pinz
14 sounds balmy...High of -8 here yesterday. I know my northern friends will be even colder.

Cold

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:55 am
by LibTimothy
I'm not trying to get into a colder-than-thou contest here. At least not with Alaskans on the board. It was just colder than normal (as if ANYTHING were NOrmal in NY) and I was wondered if that could be a factor.

I was hoping it would warm up to freezing today (holy cow! I'm nuts for living here! Will I ever be warm again?) so I can get the covers of and see if I can spot something simple.

So let me confess my sins here..... I have only owned the Pinz since November and it's been so cold out (since August) that I have not pulled off the engine cover yet. I don't know what the enging looks like. I was hoping to go without problems until spring time (July).

So, sins confessed, what should the throttle linkage look like? Could I just have ice frozen on something? Is there a common broken something? Should I take pictures of what I have (once it warms up to freezing). This problem happened suddenly. One day it worked fine, the next not. The manual throttle is not locked. I can pull it and it moves until I reach the point the gas pedal is stuck at. I'll look at lubing the linkage. Again, I was hoping I was just iced up somewhere rather than broken.

I did buy the parts and repair manuals, so I have pictures I can look at to see what the linkage is suppose to look like. But I'm having trouble finding a clear picture of the linkage. I might be on the wrong page in the manual.

Thanks again for all the advice and help.

Timothy

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:33 pm
by Profpinz
I'm not trying to get into a colder-than-thou contest here. At least not with Alaskans on the board.
Hmm, If I can find someone on the Forum with a temp of more than 37C (99F) I may still be in the running! :roll: :D

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:54 pm
by andy
Peter, would that be right now or in a couple of months?

Andy

Still cold, but I think I have it fixed.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:44 pm
by LibTimothy
Well, it did warm up slightly today and I spent a few minutes looking at the linkage thru the service panel and I think I fixed it.

I'm not sure how I fixed it, but I could see that the choke cabel was moving, slightly, the choke on the rear carb, but not the choke on the front carb. So I was able to grasp the front carb choke with my right hand and the choke knob with my left hand and wiggle them back and forth until it moved.

Then I started her up and it was like nothing was ever wrong. Nothing like a little shaking to make things better.

So that leaves two things: 1) a theory on what caused the problem and 2) a followup question.

1) Cosmic radiation.
2) Should I uncover the carbs and spray some carb cleaner in there?


Timothy

P.S. Profinz, since you live down under you get to take the negative inverse. I.e. - 1/37 C.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:04 pm
by Profpinz
Peter, would that be right now or in a couple of months?
Most of last week was in the 30's, then for the last few days it's been cold (high teens) .... That's Melbournes weather for you! :roll: :wink:
Profinz, since you live down under you get to take the negative inverse. I.e. - 1/37 C
Hmm....Interesting way of looking at things.
In that case I hope it doesn't get any colder for you guys! :wink:

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:23 pm
by andy
We are starting the drought thing again here. No rain to speak of since last August. If it is a normal dry hot year here, 105 - 110 F will be common in late June, July and August. Tolerable if the humidity stays down and there is a breeze. IF...


Andy

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:20 am
by Profpinz
We are starting the drought thing again here. No rain to speak of since last August. If it is a normal dry hot year here, 105 - 110 F
Yep, the drought is a BIG problem here too.
Water restrictions limit watering the garden to a few hours a week (by hand only) and you can't wash cars at home.
I've just purchased a 4500 litre rain water tank to collect the rain run-off so that should help a little after it fills.
'If" we move to the next stage of water restrictions washing cars all-together will be banned! :cry:

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:20 am
by Erik712m
we have gotten rain or snow about every three or four days for the last three months. wish it would stop.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:38 am
by Profpinz
Bottle it up Erik and send it over! :D