eberspacher vs. webasto

tactical6 · Post by **tactical6** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:58 am

Thanks for all the insight. Sounds like Webasto is the way to go. So let me ask, is a Webasto Air Top 2000 sufficient to heat a 710M. thanks

Jerbearyukon · Post by **Jerbearyukon** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:28 am

Smokie -It's like a short FAT wiener, but WAY better. My favorite are the hot and spicy ones (CAJUN) - (no internal cheeze...that's just gross). Just cut a forked williow stick put it over the fire and start roasting. On a cold day (with a rye or wine flask) nothin better ...well I have a few things , but not sure you can talk about it on this forum.

Anyway I am very excited now

Jer Bear

grayroad · Post by **grayroad** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:40 am

I have the 3500 for my 712M and it is plenty. From what I've heard the 2000 should do very well in the 710M. I went gasoline and ran a line into the fuel tank. It was only available in 12v so I had to get a converter.

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:09 pm

Smokie -It's like a short FAT wiener, but WAY better

Thanks Jer Bear!
I'm 90% sure a weiner is what we call a "sausage" or a "banger" but by way of your description I guess we would call a "Smokie" a "Kransky"
It's much simplier with Pinzgauers .... the descriptions are "global"

By way of heaters and like Grayroad, I have a Webasto 3500 installed in my 712....it was a bit simplier for me as I run a full 12 volt system.
I've always used Eberpachers in the past (I have a BN2 installed in the Haffy and an old BN4 in Pinny previously) but went Webasto this time because they have better backup in Australia. (Eberspacher is a one man band here)
I'm very happy with the unit!

AK NIMROD · Post by **AK NIMROD** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:10 pm

jer bear- i have a 710 i trailered thru Whitehorse last Dec. i was going to drive it but decided 3500 miles at 50-55 in cold weather was not great idea. i believe i have only 710 in AK , there is a 712 in Anchorage.
i got a heater off ebay , old military type, worked well until igniter malfunctioned and we can not locate a new igniter so i am looking for a new one. i will probably go with Webastco.
btw- i have trxus tires and i'm very pleased with them.
noise cancelling headset might be great investment for the long trip.

good luck with your new adventure

Jerbearyukon · Post by **Jerbearyukon** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:55 pm

yipper - am getting the headset when I hit St Louis and I can plug 'em into my mp3 player. I am going to get the webasto put in at Dennis's shop and I am getting the Trxus too.

I'll brave the drive have lots of time and I love the country I will be going through until I get to BC but at least this time I won't be getting any SPEEDING TICKETS.

Thanks and maybe I will see you some day on a trip over to Anchorage. I play in the Tennis tourney sometimes there and the fishing is always good.

Jer Bear

Erik712m · Post by **Erik712m** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:14 pm

I have spent many a cold night wrapped in a Persian carpet out under the Arabian sky in a past life.

that sounds like a good time to me its amazing how clear the sky is when your 300 miles from town.I spent a month on a lynch buggy and never really came into contact with any one exept for a couple of guys about my age. my buddy keep telling they come out there to do drugs but in conversation they seemed to speek better english than me. the only webasto dealer around here is in goddard, a couch conversion shop they didn't seem to wan't to sell a none diesel heater, and gave me the run around.The VW shop was more than happy to sell the espar

pinzwheeling · Post by **pinzwheeling** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:53 pm

lindenengineering wrote:I dunno about heat/cold and toughing it in the wilderness but one things for sure I have spent many a cold night wrapped in a Persian carpet out under the Arabian sky in a past life.
A tent, a fire, a dish of lamb/goat, and cordial company amongst some Arab soldiers (Hashemites) in a lonely place was the ultimate experience with my Landrover and my regular monthly way to Egypt from Baghdad.

As one said Oh ham du le lah. God in heaven.
He favours the merciful and the compassionate. You know that Christian, it is written? It was said over the camp fire. I believe them.
Aeh wah!
Oh ham du le lah
Deniz Hadhi as I was known

Have a bit much to drink before posting that one Dennis?

lindenengineering · Post by **lindenengineering** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:45 pm

No as a matter of fact in the Eighties I was based in Iraq representing a very large UK Truck & Bus manufacturer.

One of my jobs for a short (about seven months) was to technically support a big fleet operator we supplied trucks to in Egypt. (Yes Egyptians do have big fleet operators like the US) Basically the job entailed a monthly trip out to Al Rutba crossing the frontier into Jordan. Essentailly to drive from Baghdad to Port Said and sometimes Cairo taking the ferry ship "The Saudi Moon" from Akhaba to Port Said.

Once on the outskirts of Amman I would turn south across a dirt highway heading for Akhaba. I would regularly run into the Hashemite desert patrols who were extremely friendly and hospitable to Brits who were on the move. Since I worked with the Iraqi Army for the most part in Baghdad, the stencil on my Landrover doors told all. Camping out under the Arabian sky with these guys as company was a marvel to behold & remember. I used to sleep on the roof rack wrapped in a Persian carpet (a Nain I bought in Tehran) With no airborne pollution as is almost universal over the US the stars are much more visible to the naked eye. Besides when you see this you really do conclude that there must be a Creator to all this.

Towards my last trip I ran into the same bunch who I had met when I first started the forays to Egypt. One of the officers presented me with a framed series of Koranic verses embroidered gold silk on a black cloth background. I still have it in England but to scared to bring it over here for fear of being regarded as a latent terrorist.

I have to say this but frankly its regretable that where we Westerners & Christians could once wander around in relative safety discovering the ancient world we now go in fear of our lives. All this thanks to Bush and Blair who wanted to go on a Middle Eastern adventure. I submit it is they who must have been under the influence to be masterminds of all this crap or under the spell of a madman called Oil Companies.
Eternal shame on us both.
Dennis
ps Often top my good fortune, the arab script can be mistakenly written to read slightly different hence Dennis, can be Deniz (Turk for sea) and Harry my middle name as Haddi, then finally William is an Armeniam name. Easily written in that script on travel documents it got me past many an obstinate situation.
Oh ham du le lah!
Fee mah allah!

Jerbearyukon · Post by **Jerbearyukon** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:41 am

Get the tabasco or Webasto - whatever cause she's cold here this morining. Minus 30

Saw two sparrows trying to kickstart a raven this morning

...must need ether.... Couldn't get him going

Oh well get rid of the cold weather before the end of Feb I say.

Jer Bear

andy · Post by **andy** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:37 am

MINUS 30???? I suppose that's the temp, not the wind chill. I don't think I would ever be able to get used to that again.

The first year I was in South Texas I almost died from the heat and humidity. But, after the first winter when I didn't even have to scrape ice off the windshield, I started getting used to it.

Now, out here in southwest Texas I'm miserable below 50 F. My daughter and I guided this weekend and the early AM temps were 31 or 32 F and we didn't thaw out until about noon when the thermometer eeked it's way up to around 52 or 53.

Best wishes for a Happy New Year and an early thaw. Good luck with your new Pinz when you get it.

Andy
75 710M

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:24 pm

Get the tabasco or Webasto - whatever cause she's cold here this morining. Minus 30

A little bit warmer than that here at the moment.
Yesterday was 42C (almost 108 F) and even at midnight it was 30C (86F)

I'm in the process of building a new Pinny home/workshop but I must admit I stopped in the early afternoon and retired in by the air-con ..... Given the temps my mind isn't really on vehicle "heating" but Pinzgauer air conditioning sounds great!

M Wehrman · Post by **M Wehrman** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:39 pm

The Prof says; Pinzgauer air conditioning sounds great
I say yes it is!

Not much good now tho...
Mark

hrafn · Post by **hrafn** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:11 pm

I put a Webasto 3500 in my 710K last year, replacing the tired old
Eberspächer. Bought it from Dennis. It was an easy install using the same
intake and exhaust ports as the old Eberspächer. I have some photos of
the installation - please PM me and I will send them to you.

I opted for the optional thermostat/timer control. I set it to automatically
turn on about 15 minutes before I leave for work in the morning. The cab
is nice and warm when I get in. Real luxury. I believe there is also an
optional remote control as well.

Dennis, if you read this please PM me - I need a new connector for the back
of the thermostat/timer because I want to move it to a new location.

hrafn · Post by **hrafn** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:43 am

Here are the requested photos of my Webasto heater installation.

Showing the space where the Webasto will be installed. The old Eberspächer
has been removed. I used the mounting brackets for the Eberspächer and
fabricated a mount for the Webasto. Note the location of the intake and
exhasut ports which I reused.

The new Webasto is in place. The black corrugated tube at the bottom is the
combustion air intake and is connected to the original intake port. The silver
tube is the exhaust pipe. I used some 1/8 in. thick silicon rubber sheet to
seal the hole where the exhaust pipe passes through the floor.

I used the old exhaust pipe that goes to the back of the truck. I simply
stuck the new Webasto pipe down into the old pipe and sealed it well with
silicone sealer. Note that the fender liner was removed for this photo.

I mounted a two gallon plastic tank for the diesel fuel in the back, under the radio table.

The optional thermostat/timer.