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Post by andy »

Thank you Jacques. You haven't been around much lately either. I hope things are well for you.

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Andy wrote:Thank you Jacques. You haven't been around much lately either. I hope things are well for you.

Andy
Thks @ Andy,

Well I have been around, but more like a silent reader and right now I have a bit of side work to do as I received 200 cords of oak firewood and all of it for $ 1.5 (€ 1) => 1 cord of firewood is being sold here for € 120 (+/- $ 170 per cord)
The trees are allready cut down but I have to have everything out of the woods by end of December. Since I work all week I only have saturday I can work in the woods as sunday I am not allowed to go in.
Evening and sundays are then for spliting and cutting the wood. I'll keep me busy until end of this year - so when I am not too tired I quickly read a few things in the forum and then hit the shower and right after that the bed.

Best Regards,

Jacques
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Post by andy »

Jacques, I'm not sure but I think that is a pretty good price for wood. Back in the early '90s when I lived outside of Washington DC I paid that price for a face cord of wood. 8' long X 4' high X 2' wide. But, wow, even with a chainsaw that is a bunch of wood to cut. Is the wood at least dry?

I used to like splitting wood. It was always easier if it was going to freeze at night. Then you could wet it and let the ice start the work.

Good luck with it all, and it is nice to see you post again.

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Post by Pathfinder »

Congrats on the new 712.

[quote="Erik712m"]Now Andy, My experience with linden an Innuendo would be the same as some one who had good experience calling ABSOLUTSECRITY post false or an Innuendo.

If I read it correctly, he was informing of poor service from a different vendor. He and the vendor seem to have worked it out. Some sort of computer issue, I can feel his pain. Everytime I think I know what I'm doing on a computer, it costs me about $2,500.00 to get it fixed.

Sometimes you need to have an outlet to get things sorted out, looks like that happen here.

Wow! $170 per cord of Oak. Last year I paid $325 per cord of oak.
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Post by Jerbearyukon »

Are you guys NUTS -burning oak.......that is sacrid........all we have up here is spruce and pine and about $135 a cord...more if it's infested with the friggin beetles eh :wink: !!!!...tee hee.

Andy splitting wood works best at minus 35-40. You can hit it with a hammer man and it will split :D

Anyway Jacque I don't envy you doing that for work, but it probably keeps you in good shape or busted one or the other.

Winter is fast approaching up here and I will have to go out and get my wood soon...have to drive about 30 miles to get it but there is lots of it. I just get the stuff that is blown down already. Damn bettles are killing them so fast now it's crazy...too warm here now in the winter. When it used to get to 50-60 below for a week or so it kild the little buggers but not anymore we just don't see that kind of cold.

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Hello Andy,

Well I'm doing a bit of firewood on the side, about 15 cords per year to complement my heating oil consumption which is about 1,500 gallons per winter. (Yes, it's a big house)
@ Jer Bear. I am working in a medical office and I am only doing firewood for hobby and to keep the heating costs down as heating oil costs here nearly $ 5.50 /gallon. So you can imagine that my muscles get pretty soar at the end of the weekend as I seem to be using muscles I never knew I had. Monday always looks great when all I have to do is work on a computer keyboard.
These 200 cords of firewood is just a lucky situation because I happen to know the right person at the right time and that I own a PINZGAUER. They are located in woods belonging to my country's government and they have started to thin them out as most of the trees are too close from each other. So most of the trees are only between 2 and 3 feet thick. They have been cut down in march this year and need now to be moved out by no later then end of december. Unfortunately since there are still so many trees left standing that no heavy equipement can move in there without hitting other trees that are still standing + they are all on a steep slope. They have figured that they would need 2 sets of horses, 7 people and 4 weeks to move it out themselves, and the price tag of the wages does not justify the costs. That's why I received the incredible price of $ 1.5 for all the cords together.
Since I have the ambulance shelter removed on one of my Pinzgauer and a heavy wooden deck on the back instead, I installed a hydraulic winch driven by a 4 cylinder diesel motor on it and about 250 yards of steel cable. The Pinzgauer goes into the woods the furthest I can go without damaging any trees and then with a series of snatchblocks tied to pull ropes around some standing trees I bring the cable to the tree trunck I want to pull out with the Haflinger. The crown gets cut off and the trunck gets surgically pulled up the slope in different angles, using the snatchblocks and without hitting any standing trees. The crown gets then cut into smaller pieces that are being stapled on a special sled and pulled also up the slope. The trunks get cut next to my other military trucks (3 x Saurer 2DM of which one has a crane) into 1 yard length and loaded. Luckily some trunks (about 1/3) are so straight that I load those in 5 yards length and have them cut into oak boards or beams (they get loaded on the truck that has the crane).
I am doing this with 5 friends of mine and by the end of an 8 hour shift we have roughly taken out 15 cords of wood. When we drive out of the woods it looks like military convoy (the Pinzgauer pulls the Haflinger on a trailer). Sunday is then used for splitting. I am therefor using and older conical splitter driven by a 80 Hp tractor. That splitter has a large screw (huge) that expands conically. It screwes itself into the wood and split it. Quite a dangerous tool but it works very fast. After that, with another tractor driving a large circular saw we cut the yard long pieces into smaller pieces. By the end of sunday all is split, cut and stacked.
At the end, when all is sold (except for my part) the profit gets split in 7 as I get 2 parts for using my vehicles, .... etc + we will be having a great dinner in a restaurant.

Regards,

Jacques

Sample of Saurer 2 DM (not mine!)

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Post by Anthony »

A cord as a unit of volue is a new one on me so I looked it up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cord_(unit_of_volume)
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Post by andy »

Wow, looks and sounds like you guys are a bunch of modern day Paul Bunyons. That's quite a process you have going.

Believe it or not, the majority of my wood splitting days were from 2nd to 5th grade. We used a 9 pound sledge hammer and steel wedges. I'd miss once in awhile and hit the wedge with the handle and then I'd be in trouble because that didn't do a thing for the handles.

Jer, I couldn't swing a sledge fast enough at 30 degrees to stay warm anymore, never mind 50 to 60 below. Just that thought shakes me.

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Post by EuroPinz »

Hello Anthony,

A cord is quite a pile of wood 8' long by 4' wide and 4' tall so 200 cords make it 1,600 feet long by 4' wide and 4' tall.

Regards,

Jacques
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Post by Jerbearyukon »

You'd be surprised Andy. It's very dry here when it's that cold and the layers are everyhing.

I ride my horse at minus 20 C

Get up in the hills on Banjo (my horse) in the snow and it's so quiet and then you start a nice warm fire and roast some smokies and have some wine out of a flask or some hot tea or coffee....It's heaven. Then you take the bow and hunt a rabbit or Grouse and make some soup...

Pretty much a wonderful day

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Post by Heed »

Jer Bear...you just described my happy place! I think of it often when I am sitting on the expressway here in Toronto (wondering when I get to leave here :roll:

I'm very envious.

Europinz:

That guy at the rear of the Saurer must have biceps the size of my thigh! He looked like he was wrestling for the Swiss Olympic Team when he was tackling that steering wheel! Neat truck though. Now....if I only had a little more space in the garage... :)
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I ride my horse at minus 20 C
Jer Bear...you just described my happy place!
I don't know, it sounds like a pretty COLD happy place to me! :twisted: :roll: :D

Now, my happy place has a PINZGAUER somewhere in the picture! :D
.... more than one if it's an exceedingly happy place! :D :D :D :D
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Post by Heed »

Look on the bright side Peter...there aren't any bugs!! :lol:

(...'til spring)


and yes...the Pinz would be in the picture!
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Post by Jerbearyukon »

Well I could just pull the trailer with the pinz.....how about that. I am going hunting here soon and I will pull the horse trailer behind my pinz - so then I will have both of 'em. One to hunt on and pack the game back to the pinz and one to pack us all home with...that'll work :wink:

Riding up here is so cool cause you can just ride him out the gate and I won't see another person after I have been riding for 10 minutes.

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Post by andy »

Jer, glad it works. Could you explain what you mean by "could just pull the trailer"? Is that like in barely pulled it? My 710 pulled my loaded feed trailer, but just barely.

Have you tried it with the horse in the trailer yet?

Our deer down here haven't even shed their velvet yet, but it won't be long.

Enjoy

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