Flat Towing a Pinz

russ · Post by **russ** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:27 pm

Thanks for the pictures. That is how I was planning on attaching when I modify the trailer. Putting 10K lb loops on it soon. I will then upgrade chains to grade 70 from the grade 43 I have now. I'll just use the grade 43 chains as backup. I do like the J hooks too. Thought about that in the past.

David Dunn · Post by **David Dunn** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:31 pm

I used to use #70 3/8" chain and binders, but have moved toward 5000lbs DOT approved ratchet straps. I have 4 new ratchet straps with J hooks on their way here ( should be here today or tomorrow), I can let you know how they're like once I get them. I know for a fact that the quality of the ratchets are all over the board, and some have handle locks.
Where you have said Florida requires the use of chains, Ca usually accept DOT standards. If the racthets aren't to my satifaction, I will go back to the chain and binders. If you noticed in one pic, I attach straps to the arms of the binders so they couldn't release from vibrations.

To date, the ratchet straps have served well to secure the Supacat, and it is 4200lbs.

russ · Post by **russ** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:53 pm

I use the ACME screw binders. They don't come undone

Unfortunately they don't fold down as neatly either. The straps I had were 10K lb. I could still use them so long as I also used a chain in the back. I found that just chaining down was faster than the straps though and definitely secure. I'd definitely like to know how they work though.

BTW, the FL chain requirement only has to do with rolling loads, i.e. vehicles on trailers. Regular loads are still bound with straps, no chains required.

David Dunn · Post by **David Dunn** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:20 pm

LOL....I have a set of screw tensioners, binders, bucket of #70 chain and who knows how many different configurations of straps and ends. With a shorter trailer, most all the tensioning must be under the vehicle where the deck and vehicle restricts the swing of the tensioner's arms. Even with tying off at the outriggers, the chains ( or straps) are not over 5' long from end to end....and only 4' on the Supacat, because the tiedown shackles are 3' off the deck! ( at least I don't have to crawl under it to secure it )

This is where I ordered my lastest menagerie of tiedown items.
http://www.talcospecialties.com/web3.htm