710/712 designations
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710/712 designations
Sorry if I missed this over the years, but does anyone know where the 710/712, 716/718 designations originate? ...And the "M" or "K" for that matter?
- GenevaPinz

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Re: 710/712 designations
I believe the letter "K" stands for "Kommando", which translates into "Command".
Jan
'72 Pinzgauer 710M
'72 Pinzgauer 710M
Re: 710/712 designations
I always figured the K was short for "Kabin" - as with the term "DoKa" - double kabin.
I like to think of the M being for "multipurpose" as the same platform can be used for transporting people, pallets, ambulances and even anti-aircraft guns.
The number system I suspect is not based on a lot of thought - the first number 7 was probably carried over from the Haflinger production - i.e. they were 700 and 703 - so they jumped it up to 710 and 712 for the new version. I would have thought they would have jumped to 720 and 722 for the diesel Pinzgauers - but I guess they viewed them more as an evolution of the original.
If they ever made a 8x8 Pinzgauer I guess it would have been called a 714?
I like to think of the M being for "multipurpose" as the same platform can be used for transporting people, pallets, ambulances and even anti-aircraft guns.
The number system I suspect is not based on a lot of thought - the first number 7 was probably carried over from the Haflinger production - i.e. they were 700 and 703 - so they jumped it up to 710 and 712 for the new version. I would have thought they would have jumped to 720 and 722 for the diesel Pinzgauers - but I guess they viewed them more as an evolution of the original.
If they ever made a 8x8 Pinzgauer I guess it would have been called a 714?
- David Dunn

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Re: 710/712 designations
K is for Kabine , or cabin
M is the same for soft top model... the word aludes me at the moment....but find a German word that starts with M that loosely translates to soft top.
When versions were made later, and 2 letters were used, the 1st was for the platform and the 2nd for the shell. M for the 3 door platform and K for the 5 door.
I have no idea where the numbers came from, but would guess from some factory numbering system, gaps in the numbers are usually so they can go back and "fill in" a number if a new variant is made comes up
M is the same for soft top model... the word aludes me at the moment....but find a German word that starts with M that loosely translates to soft top.
When versions were made later, and 2 letters were used, the 1st was for the platform and the 2nd for the shell. M for the 3 door platform and K for the 5 door.
I have no idea where the numbers came from, but would guess from some factory numbering system, gaps in the numbers are usually so they can go back and "fill in" a number if a new variant is made comes up
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The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)
The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)
- McCall Pinz

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Re: 710/712 designations
Just a guess, but M could be Mehrzweck = multipurpose. K could be Kabine since there's also a DK Dopple Kabine.
eat, sleep, Pinzgauer
Re: 710/712 designations
Faltverdeck is the german word for "folding soft top" or convertible roof for a car - so that isn't it.
Mehrzweck was the word I was thinking of for "multi-purpose" as in:
Mehrzweck-Angriffshubschrauber - multi-purpose attack helicopter
Mehrzweck was the word I was thinking of for "multi-purpose" as in:
Mehrzweck-Angriffshubschrauber - multi-purpose attack helicopter
- David Dunn

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Re: 710/712 designations
"soft top" was a bad choice of word... open vehicle, or something along the line of "not a hard cabin"... I was thinking it is in the beginning of the owners manaul. "T" is the basic model, without top, side rails or rear door, iirc.
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The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)
The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)
- Jimm391730

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Re: 710/712 designations
I thought I saw sometime that "M" stood for something like "Mancabine" (sorry, I have no German language skills at all) that meant people carrier, troop carrier, or something like that.
Jim M.
712W and 710M
712W and 710M
Re: 710/712 designations
soooo, what MS stand for?? my says 710MS...... :?:
3 doors hardtop...
1985 710MS
1985 712MK
1988 PAJERO CAMEL SPECIAL 042/150
1985 712MK
1988 PAJERO CAMEL SPECIAL 042/150
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Re: 710/712 designations
Hmmmmmmmmm. All theories are now thrown out the window...waterdog wrote:soooo, what MS stand for?? my says 710MS...... :?:3 doors hardtop...
eat, sleep, Pinzgauer
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Re: 710/712 designations
In the 710/12 manual, M for 3 door platform, S for special hardtop ( actually a K top with door upper, or a panel installed), so not really special. When the TDs came around, they are MK, just mixing components.
What is unique to the TDs are the use of 718K platforms for some Ambs with a curbside side door and a cubby box on the street side cutout
What is unique to the TDs are the use of 718K platforms for some Ambs with a curbside side door and a cubby box on the street side cutout
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The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)
The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)
