OutKast Engineering selling winch bumper... $2,250

[TechMOGogy]

and slams others builders!!
Don't like their selling tactics and I question their design - width, weight, winch placement and their asking price!
Oh and for that price you may need to tweak it a bit when mounting

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PINZGAUER-710-7 ... SS:CA:1120

[Jack Russell Racing]

I can almost see a small tear falling from Andre's left eye....


Why does it extend several inches beyond the side of the vehicle?

[TechMOGogy]

I can almost see a small tear falling from Andre's left eye....

Why does it extend several inches beyond the side of the vehicle?

Not sure really - part of the wacky design?
I just think they don't need to post other work in a negative way to try and sell their junk.
I like that more people are getting into the Pinz world but just bad way to do business IMHO.

Edit - it is not Andre's design but another that they are putting down

[GenevaPinz]

I'm 50% happy to see a company offering new products... and 50% disappointed that it is a company that doesn't even introduce itself on the largest forum of its target customers (this one) and feels like bashing other products is a good marketing practice...

[Andre]

I am unaware of any Bashing of my product. Other than by Cold War Remarketing. Even then, the damage involved looked identical to other trucks that had experienced front end damage(with or without a bumper).


As far as tears, my work speaks for itself and I have yet to charge more than $2000 for any bumper I have built(not including shipping).

[TechMOGogy]

I am unaware of any Bashing of my product. Other than by Cold War Remarketing. Even then, the damage involved looked identical to other trucks that had experienced front end damage(with or without a bumper).


As far as tears, my work speaks for itself and I have yet to charge more than $2000 for any bumper I have built(not including shipping).

Last photo in the ebay ad shows what looks like one of your bumpers covered in mud and in the text it says "Virtually no approach angle is lost unlike some bumpers we have seen(see last picture, LOL)"

[Andre]

close but no cigar. It isn't one of mine. Still doesn't excuse poor salesmanship.

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Mine has D rings.

[Jack Russell Racing]

Card-carrying member of the Fat Fabricatons Fan Club (FFFC) :

[pcolette]

Card-carrying member of the Fat Fabricatons Fan Club (FFFC) :

Ditto!

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[VinceAtReal4x4s]

and slams others builders!!
Don't like their selling tactics and I question their design - width, weight, winch placement and their asking price!
Oh and for that price you may need to tweak it a bit when mounting

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PINZGAUER-710-7 ... SS:CA:1120

That is a truly ugly design, and uglier price. Not to mention the winch-over-top thing.

[Mact]

I read this forum for all the great information it provides me.

Can we just let the market decide on these products? There is room for everybody.

Thanks

[Andre]

looks similar to this one build many years ago.

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[TechMOGogy]

I read this forum for all the great information it provides me.

Can we just let the market decide on these products? There is room for everybody.

Thanks

Room for many more but no need for one company to knock others to try and sell their product.
Welcome to the forum and please fill out your location.
Cheers,

[edzz]

I read this forum for all the great information it provides me.

Can we just let the market decide on these products? There is room for everybody.

Thanks

Would you prefer that we simply quite communicating with our fellow Pinz addicts?

If you want to join the conversation why don't you introduce yourself.

If its your product being criticized feel free to defend it.

Oh BTW welcome to the forum.

[Pinz710m2]

Instead of complaining about bad design, I'll point to a
great design and suggest that it might be a standard by
which others might be judged. This is a design by
profpinz, a guy with crazy- awesome metalwork skills: