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todds112
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Trial starts today.

Post by todds112 »

The criminal trial for the suspect that destroyed my knee starts today. I am really not looking forward to going there and having some attorney try to make me look like the bad guy. Suspect is looking at a max of ten years.

It will be a jury trial and you just never know how those will go. Especially in a town not known for its love of law enforcement.

I'll be glad when this whole ordeal is over.
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Post by andy »

Todd, it's natural to be nervous at a trial. I have no idea how many you've been to as a "case" agent or anything, but it doesn't take too many to show you that the last place you will find truth is usually coming from the witness stand. The lawyers and defendants will be lying through their teeth and presenting themselves as victims of circumstance. Just hope you have a strong DA who won't let the defendant's lawyer testify to the jury for him unless he is under oath in the box.

Just tell your story and don't let the rectal oriface defense lawyer make you change your testimony. Don't bite on the yes or no answers. 99% of the time you can't answer just yes or no and tell the WHOLE story.

Off course you will be made out to be a redneck, racist, homophobe, who maliciously hurts small animals in front of kindergartners or some other horrendous stuff. Your defendant will probably be dressed like he is on his way to help Mother Theresa instead of the way he looked that night.

Even if he gets off this time, he'll screw up again. Look at OJ. Good luck. Post how it is going.
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Post by pinzwheeling »

Andy wrote:
Just tell your story and don't let the rectal oriface defense lawyer make you change your testimony. Don't bite on the yes or no answers. 99% of the time you can't answer just yes or no and tell the WHOLE story.
Just my $.02. I spent an afternoon on the witness stand a few months ago in a civil case as a witness for the complainent (sic). I was told that I did very well, however, I definately screwed up a couple of times by getting emotionally envolved in my responses to the defendant's attorney.

1. DO NOT get angry when asked stupid questions. Attorneys know how to push buttons very well, their profession requires it. I think I'm a pretty level headed guy, but I ended up almost yelling my responses back to the defense attorney after he accused me of lying and other assorted BS.

2. Tell the truth, but don't elaborate unless your attorney tells you to. Only answer the question asked; most of the screwups that I made were trying to explain my answer or elaborate on the question that was asked.

3. If your attorney (the DA?) is any good, you should be pretty well prepared for the questions you will be asked. Whatever you do, do not lie.
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Post by Erik712m »

Man Andy you wrote that like youv'e been there. I would have thought in Salina your job would been fairly safe. Good luck todd
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Post by todds112 »

Oh, I've been many many times. This one is kind of different. First one I've been the victim of a serious injury. I know the games they play.

Went pretty well, I think. Defense starts tomorrow. Of course I fell, he didn't kick me. Whatever...

Never know till the jury comes back, but they don't seem to be buying the defense's games. We'll see I guess.
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Post by Steve »

Todd,

Let us know what has happened after the verdict is in, to avoid any research and disclosure. I know your comment in the last post was facetious, but please be careful.

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I forgot...where's the Pinz/Teton pics! :D
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Post by andy »

I'm glad you got a good DA and a jury that is at least somewhat interested. In the federal system you had to be on life support and in a body cast before the AUSA would even think about trying someone for assualt on a federal officer.
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Post by todds112 »

Steve wrote:I forgot...where's the Pinz/Teton pics! :D
I need to get some, can't believe I haven't yet. :roll:

Leaves are starting to change, elk are rutting, need to get out and get some pics before the snow flies!
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Post by Steve »

Rub it in...rub it in!

Maybe I'll make it up that way again sometime. The better half (she's the one who told me to buy our Pinz!) and I have been to Jackson and DuBois. Mom-in-law lives in Cheyenne, so we do get to the "general" area. :lol:

We also have a small piece of ground with a view of the Sangres, so when I finally get the Pinz there, I'll have something to post also.

Good luck with the trial.

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Post by todds112 »

GUILTY AS CHARGED.

I was a little concerned when jury deliberations went for 3 1/2 hours. Glad it's over. Sentencing will be later.
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Post by andy »

Good on ya! Too bad you didn't have 4 more co-defendants then the hippies could be outside the jail chanting Free the Jackson 5.
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Post by Wayne Roberts »

Todd - Glad to hear that the guy who hurt you will have to pay for what he has done. Keep us informed as to what his jail term will be. (Too short I am sure for all of your suffering.) Hope that your recovery goes well and that you get to use your Pinz soon.

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Post by andy »

Todd, this list is entitled: You might be a cop if:

You have the bladder capacity of five people

You have ever restrained someone and it was not a sexual experience

You believe that 50% of people are a waste of good air

Your idea of a good time is a gun run or a car chase

You conduct a criminal record check on anyone who seems friendly towards you

You believe in the aerial spraying of Prozac and birth control pills

You disbelieve 90% of what you hear and 75% of what you see

You have your weekends off planned for a year

You believe the government should require a permit to reproduce

You refer to your favorite restaurant by the intersection at which it's located

You have ever wanted to hold a seminar entitled: "Suicide...getting
it done right the first time"

You ever had to put the phone on hold before you begin laughing uncontrollably

You think caffeine should be available in IV form

You believe anyone who says, "I only had two beers" is going to blow
more than a .15

You find out a lot about paranoia just by following people around

Anyone has ever said to you, "There are people killing other people
out there and you are here messing with me."

People flag you down on the street and ask you directions to strange
places.....and you know where it's located

You can discuss where you are going to eat with your partner while
standing over a dead body

You are the only person introduced at social gatherings by profession

You walk into places and people think it's high comedy to seize their
buddy and shout, "They've come to get you Bill!"

You do not see daylight from November until May

People shout, "I didn't do it!" when you walk into a room and think
they're being funny and original

A week's worth of laundry consists of 5 T-shirts, 5 pair of socks and
5 pair of underwear

You've ever referred to Tuesday as "my weekend", or "this is my Friday"

You've ever written off guns and ammunition as a business deduction

You believe that unspeakable evils will befall you if anyone says,
"Boy, it sure is quiet tonight."

Discussing dismemberment over a meal seems perfectly normal to you

You find humor in other people's stupidity

You have left more meals on the restaurant table than you've eaten

You feel good when you hear "these handcuffs are too tight"

Been there done that
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Post by todds112 »

Ha Ha, so true it's scary, Andy!

Wayne, luckily the injury only kept me out opf the Pinz for a few months. I would have been REALY mad then. :wink:

Hoping to get back onto patrol duty within the next month or so. I just found out I'll be getting a brand new cruiser in a few months too. :D

Thanks for the support!
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