What was the price of a Pinz from Steyr

[andy]

Looking at the prices of Pinzgauers and seeing the fluctuations in asking prices here and elsewhere made me wonder what the cost of a brand new Pinz was to the Swiss or Austrian armies.

I've either heard or read somewhere, that they went for over a hundred thousand a copy, can that be right?

Does anybody know what they cost new back in the day?

Andy

[David Dunn]

What I had heard (years ago), was that at the time in the early 70s was that a 710 was about 4x the price of a LR Series truck. A LR then was about $4k in the US....which would be more than they would have gone for in Europe....sooooo, with purely shooting from the hip, I would guess somewhere between $16k to $20k.

Now, no one go off quoting me that as gospel, Peter may have some figures from that time.

The $100k pricing was someones " accounting for inflation" pricing.
I had been given, in '02, that a "base(?)" 716 Pinz would be 79k GBP ( the exchange rate then was around $1.60, making a Pinz $126K then)

[Profpinz]

In 1974 the list price of a 712 Pinzgauer in Australia was $16,500 Aus.
A Land Rover depending on the model was between $4000 - $7000 Aus and a new Range Rover was $11,000 Aus.

In 1977/8 the price for a 712 rose to $26,000 Aus while a Range Rover cost $16,000 Aus.... a 1977 Suzuki hardtop 4X4 cost $4,500 Aus.

As a comparison a 2008 Range Rover Vogue sells here for around $165,000!
Additionally the New Zealand Military paid $165,000 (with 10 years of spares) for each of their 718's about 3 years ago.....Mind you they brought 330 so I daresay they got a bit of a discount!

Somewhere (I thought my filing system in regards to Haflingers and Pinzgauers was pretty good, but it's not as good as I thought) I have a 1970's SDP factory pricelist, so when I find it I'II be able to add some further costs.

[andy]

Dave, thanks. The 16 to 20K figure changes my thinking from being impressed with having a high dollar vehicle to being amazed at how well they have held their value. Either way they are worth it to me.

Andy

[andy]

Thanks Peter. Interesting figures. The Rovers seem to hold their price pretty well too. I saw an absolutely beautiful LR or RR 110 (83 year) at Dennis' which was for sale at $63K US, but it had brand new seats inside and had been totally worked over. It was one of the purple colors, maroon or burgundy. Nice looking vehicle.

Andy

[David Dunn]

All we need now is a correlation of US and Oz dollars for the early '70s.
Land Rover is bad to judge by in the US, as they don't follow world resale trends. '74 was their last year in the US, and only Series 3 88 SW was the only model available. '87 was the first year that Range Rover ($35k) came to the US. "Land Rover" returned to the US in '93 with 500 Defenders 110 NAS SW. ( Base at $35k). These have continually increase in price, typically hovering at $50k. In '94, Defender 90s were brought to the US in limited numbers ( at $30k), and in 2007, a nice D90 would bring in the mid $30k, while a '94 RR costing about $50k new, would sell last year for $4 to 7k. This is totally opposite of the rest of the world.
My familiarity with LRs comes from owning them for over half my life.

But to put some things in perspective, back in '70, my brother bought a new Chevy 1/2T pickup for $2k, a Datsun pickup was under $2k in '73, and in '75, I bought a new Dodge PU for $4500.
And to extend this further, something I recently read (???), gave me the impression that a US Haffy was around $4k in '72

Peter, where your RR Vogue is $165K Oz bucks , a loaded RR SuperCharged, stickers at just over $96k USD here


And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's, what and how much was it ? ( if you can remember that long ago)

[Erik712m]

And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's

That remove's some of us as we may have not been around that far back when there was no tv's or internet

[David Dunn]

And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's

That remove's some of us as we may have not been around that far back when there was no tv's or internet

Or birth control !

[Erik712m]

[AZ_Dave]

check out this link. It goes to a page written in may 2006 about Britain buying 80 pinzgauer 6x6's, they cost them $788,000 each. I am assuming this is US. Of course it is an armored version that the article says includes "a Kevlar floor, bullet proof glass and tires that will run when flat."

http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.c ... ders_.html

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Those are PPV's !!!!

I wish I could get one of those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glynn

[AZ_Dave]

And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's

That remove's some of us as we may have not been around that far back when there was no tv's or internet

Or birth control !

I was not alive that long ago, but my dad told me that was also before dirt existed....which explains the pinz's rock-crawling abilities.

What does PPV mean. Is it just the modern name for a Pinz as opposed to 712? I understand there are probably many changes from the 710's/12's

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Pinzgauer Protector Vector

or

protected patrol vehicle

Thats what I thought PPV stands for.

Glynn

[andy]

Those are PPV's !!!!

I wish I could get one of those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glynn

You and a lot of other people. Not sure if I need protection from IEDs, but they would be so neat. Since I'm not really greedy I'd settle for a 716 or 718 though.

Andy