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What was the price of a Pinz from Steyr

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:18 pm
by andy
Looking at the prices of Pinzgauers and seeing the fluctuations in asking prices here and elsewhere made me wonder what the cost of a brand new Pinz was to the Swiss or Austrian armies.

I've either heard or read somewhere, that they went for over a hundred thousand a copy, can that be right?

Does anybody know what they cost new back in the day?

Andy

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:14 pm
by David Dunn
What I had heard (years ago), was that at the time in the early 70s was that a 710 was about 4x the price of a LR Series truck. A LR then was about $4k in the US....which would be more than they would have gone for in Europe....sooooo, with purely shooting from the hip, I would guess somewhere between $16k to $20k.

Now, no one go off quoting me that as gospel, Peter may have some figures from that time.

The $100k pricing was someones " accounting for inflation" pricing.
I had been given, in '02, that a "base(?)" 716 Pinz would be 79k GBP ( the exchange rate then was around $1.60, making a Pinz $126K then)

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:48 pm
by Profpinz
In 1974 the list price of a 712 Pinzgauer in Australia was $16,500 Aus.
A Land Rover depending on the model was between $4000 - $7000 Aus and a new Range Rover was $11,000 Aus.

In 1977/8 the price for a 712 rose to $26,000 Aus while a Range Rover cost $16,000 Aus.... a 1977 Suzuki hardtop 4X4 cost $4,500 Aus.

As a comparison a 2008 Range Rover Vogue sells here for around $165,000!
Additionally the New Zealand Military paid $165,000 (with 10 years of spares) for each of their 718's about 3 years ago.....Mind you they brought 330 so I daresay they got a bit of a discount! :wink:

Somewhere (I thought my filing system in regards to Haflingers and Pinzgauers was pretty good, but it's not as good as I thought) I have a 1970's SDP factory pricelist, so when I find it I'II be able to add some further costs.

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:49 pm
by andy
Dave, thanks. The 16 to 20K figure changes my thinking from being impressed with having a high dollar vehicle to being amazed at how well they have held their value. Either way they are worth it to me.

Andy

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:54 pm
by andy
Thanks Peter. Interesting figures. The Rovers seem to hold their price pretty well too. I saw an absolutely beautiful LR or RR 110 (83 year) at Dennis' which was for sale at $63K US, but it had brand new seats inside and had been totally worked over. It was one of the purple colors, maroon or burgundy. Nice looking vehicle.

Andy

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:49 am
by David Dunn
All we need now is a correlation of US and Oz dollars for the early '70s. :wink:
Land Rover is bad to judge by in the US, as they don't follow world resale trends. '74 was their last year in the US, and only Series 3 88 SW was the only model available. '87 was the first year that Range Rover ($35k) came to the US. "Land Rover" returned to the US in '93 with 500 Defenders 110 NAS SW. ( Base at $35k). These have continually increase in price, typically hovering at $50k. In '94, Defender 90s were brought to the US in limited numbers ( at $30k), and in 2007, a nice D90 would bring in the mid $30k, while a '94 RR costing about $50k new, would sell last year for $4 to 7k. This is totally opposite of the rest of the world.
My familiarity with LRs comes from owning them for over half my life. :roll:

But to put some things in perspective, back in '70, my brother bought a new Chevy 1/2T pickup for $2k, a Datsun pickup was under $2k in '73, and in '75, I bought a new Dodge PU for $4500.
And to extend this further, something I recently read (???), gave me the impression that a US Haffy was around $4k in '72

Peter, where your RR Vogue is $165K Oz bucks :wink: , a loaded RR SuperCharged, stickers at just over $96k USD here


And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's, what and how much was it ? ( if you can remember that long ago) :lol:

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:08 am
by Erik712m
And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's
That remove's some of us as we may have not been around that far back when there was no tv's or internet :lol:

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:08 pm
by David Dunn
Erik712m wrote:
And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's
That remove's some of us as we may have not been around that far back when there was no tv's or internet :lol:
Or birth control ! :lol:

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:24 pm
by Erik712m
:lol: :lol: :shock:

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:31 am
by AZ_Dave
check out this link. It goes to a page written in may 2006 about Britain buying 80 pinzgauer 6x6's, they cost them $788,000 each. I am assuming this is US. Of course it is an armored version that the article says includes "a Kevlar floor, bullet proof glass and tires that will run when flat."

http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.c ... ders_.html

YAH!!

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:44 am
by ABSOLUTSECURITY
Those are PPV's !!!! :shock: :shock:

I wish I could get one of those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll:

Glynn

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:24 am
by AZ_Dave
David Dunn wrote:
Erik712m wrote:
And to go one further for us "older" farts, who bought a new car in the early 70's
That remove's some of us as we may have not been around that far back when there was no tv's or internet :lol:
Or birth control ! :lol:
I was not alive that long ago, but my dad told me that was also before dirt existed....which explains the pinz's rock-crawling abilities.

What does PPV mean. Is it just the modern name for a Pinz as opposed to 712? I understand there are probably many changes from the 710's/12's

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:46 am
by ABSOLUTSECURITY
Pinzgauer Protector Vector

or

protected patrol vehicle

Thats what I thought PPV stands for.

Glynn

Re: YAH!!

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:31 am
by andy
ABSOLUTSECURITY wrote:Those are PPV's !!!! :shock: :shock:

I wish I could get one of those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll:

Glynn
You and a lot of other people. Not sure if I need protection from IEDs, but they would be so neat. Since I'm not really greedy I'd settle for a 716 or 718 though. :)

Andy