Strip the camo but keep the original color?
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sixbennetts
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Strip the camo but keep the original color?
My tgb11 came with the usual field camouflage paint slapped on with either a motor pool mop, or more likely, Swedish pine needles. It has the nice army green underneath. Any way to strip the campfire, and leave the green not?
If not, what's the best paint to lay over the top of this camo? I intend on sanding all the drips and runs down but I'm not doing any filler or straightening any panels.
If not, what's the best paint to lay over the top of this camo? I intend on sanding all the drips and runs down but I'm not doing any filler or straightening any panels.
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stiffler4444

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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
Yikes, I'm a fan of original "patina"...I'd leave it as is......... 
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
I have stripped aftermarket paint off on multiple occations to get back to the original paint. here is a VW Form post that goes into it. I use Jasco Green strip
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewto ... ight=jasco
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewto ... ight=jasco
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
This of interest in my case also, and I don't mean to hijack your thread. My pinz was brush painted (might have been a mop by the looks of itwesternair wrote:I have stripped aftermarket paint off on multiple occations to get back to the original paint. here is a VW Form post that goes into it. I use Jasco Green strip
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewto ... ight=jasco
A bit of a puzzler to me as to why it was brush painted other than to hide better in the field, and curious if this is a method to see what is underneath.
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
I think most touch up and repainting of military vehicles is done by hand with a brush. The flat paint fades really quick to the point where, as you say, it appears like a different paint. All the military Pinzgauers would have come out the factory with a semi-gloss green, which then will have faded / over painted in time.
I have always hand brushed the paint on mine, it looks right! It is also easy to touch up and repair.
Part the fun of vehicles like these for me, is the way they can be hosed down, inside and out, hand painted etc. and still look just right.
I would suggest the same for your Volvo as it would take a lot of work to strip back and spray paint.
I have always hand brushed the paint on mine, it looks right! It is also easy to touch up and repair.
Part the fun of vehicles like these for me, is the way they can be hosed down, inside and out, hand painted etc. and still look just right.
I would suggest the same for your Volvo as it would take a lot of work to strip back and spray paint.
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sixbennetts
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
I was seriously considering the base green color for a while, but you're right. That's a ton of work for a truck that's gonna get scratched anyway.
Trouble is, I have spots where something hit the inside and knocked the paint off in a star pattern. I suppose I can feather those spots a little, even chip off the loose paint. I also have spots where the paint is so thick you can't see there's a bolt head under it! And drips / runs? I have one rain gutter literally filled with paint!
I'm thinking electric power or air chisel to level things off. (I wonder how much of my, "Max Last 900 Kg", I've lost to paint?!)

Trouble is, I have spots where something hit the inside and knocked the paint off in a star pattern. I suppose I can feather those spots a little, even chip off the loose paint. I also have spots where the paint is so thick you can't see there's a bolt head under it! And drips / runs? I have one rain gutter literally filled with paint!
I'm thinking electric power or air chisel to level things off. (I wonder how much of my, "Max Last 900 Kg", I've lost to paint?!)
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sixbennetts
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
Ok, if I want a dark tan semi-gloss finish, what's the best paint to put over the top? I've decided on minimal prep, a light scuff to give it some tooth, then rollers and brushes.
Krylon?
Rustoleum?
Something water cleanup would be sweet.
Krylon?
Rustoleum?
Something water cleanup would be sweet.
Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
No, anything with water clean-up would not be sweet, you would only regret it later. From a technical standpoint, Krylon and Rustoleum are the same, they are both Alkyd enamels which is what the Pinz and I assume the 303 was originally painted with. It's great if you don't need good durability, are not worried about sun induced color fading and don't mind doing touch-ups later. One main benefit is the price and ease of application. At a minimum, this is as cheap as you should go, do not even consider anything like latex enamel, that's house paint. You asked what is the best paint, but then say you intend to put it on with a roller? No, if you just want to roll it on, you aren't going to be willing to spend the money on the best paint. If you have little or no paint experience and you want to do it yourself, I suggest the Krylon or Rustoleum and not anything fancier. You can get a cheap spray-gun at Lowes or Home Depot and that will work well if you have an air compressor. Personally, I wouldn't use a roller...as Henry David Thorough said, "some things are much more easily acquired than gotten rid of". If you slather that paint on with a roller, it's going on thick and it's not going to look nice, changing your mind about it later will be costly and labor consuming.
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sixbennetts
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
Ok, no roller. I'll use a brush and Rustoleum. Can you get it custom mixed? Any chance I could run it through a Wagner Power Painter or Paint zoom? I have friends with both.
Was the field camo that was slapped on the same paint type as the factory paint? Probably had to be, right?
Was the field camo that was slapped on the same paint type as the factory paint? Probably had to be, right?
Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
Brush? Easier with spray cans or a real paint sprayer. Look here. http://www.carcraft.com/howto/24820/
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
For what you are describing as the level of quality you want from this paint job, I'd say it's probably just as cost effective to go to one of those real cheap nationwide auto-painting shops. Yes, you can spray enamel through an airless sprayer like a wagner, but typically when people use one they use it for one type of paint or the other. Your friend may get mad if you just shoot automotive paint through it if he uses it to paint houses. With Rustoleum or Krylon you have to choose one of the available colors, you can't get it custom mixed. You can get the same type of paint custom mixed at NAPA auto parts I believe, as well as O'Reily's, but it will be more costly. I suggest you think this over pretty well before making a decision, I can see this turning into a mess. The original paint is probably more attractive even with it's blemishes and fading than will be a new bad paint-job.
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sixbennetts
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
RATTLE-CAN RUSTOLEUM SAND FOR THE WIN!
Cheap, easy, quick, I can touch it up any time and if it fades, in a few years, maybe I'll paint it again. Maybe not. All the original paint is still under there for the next guy.
The hinges, brush guards, door handles, and mirrors will all be flat black for contrast.


Cheap, easy, quick, I can touch it up any time and if it fades, in a few years, maybe I'll paint it again. Maybe not. All the original paint is still under there for the next guy.
The hinges, brush guards, door handles, and mirrors will all be flat black for contrast.


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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
You've made a neat job of that, looks great, didn't think it was the same truck at first!
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sixbennetts
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Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
Thanks. I think it'll do. Wife likes it too, which means she'll be more likely to go with me!
Re: Strip the camo but keep the original color?
Looks Great Donny!!! Great work. Was thinking of going tan with my 11-11
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