Electric steering for 710/712s

[NEWFISHER]

Received the kit today, all pieces look great with well made harnesses/connections etc. I was excited to sit down and consume my evening with 38 pages of instructions, watch the video and learn about the system. No instructions, no DVD nada. Sent an E ticket.

[TechMOGogy]

Received the kit today, all pieces look great with well made harnesses/connections etc. I was excited to sit down and consume my evening with 38 pages of instructions, watch the video and learn about the system. No instructions, no DVD nada. Sent an E ticket.

Scott has pdf instructions with photos that are very good - he will send to you (48 pages )

[NEWFISHER]

Just got the instructions emailed from Scott. Well documented and trouble shooting guide attached. I plan on bench testing it before install and then diving in!

The container kits are a 10 week delivery time and it arrived 9 weeks early!

[NEWFISHER]

Here's the beginning of mine. Instructions suggest installing the column unit first to open up the work area to allow easier electrical install. I wanted to have the entire electrical ran before I downed the truck for a day getting the column and box out, modifying it and taking it over to the welding shop for a while I wait tig weld. This is from left to right, potentiometer box, 24 to 12v relay, module and across the pic on the right is the easy access fuse mounted to the SSI controller. So far ahead of schedule. The wiring took 2 hrs to lay out, run, build the sheath and mount it all. Just have to plug the column harness connector into the module and the module harness into the column. I figure 2hrs out with the column and cutting the tube and shaft, an hour or so over at the welder and a couple more hours installed. Scott says 5 hrs by a competent tech, I am far from that and should have about 7 in it over a couple eves and a lunch hour crossing fingers it works first try!

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[TechMOGogy]

Thats a clean layout - I will copy!

[NEWFISHER]

Heres the column installed. I ran 2 additional ground wires from the module and the column to the clutch master bolt and to the body. Just need to mod the ignition switch for the trigger and mod the knee bolster to fit and done. Probobly 7-8 hrs

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[NEWFISHER]

The system is up and running. Here are a few notes for those installing in the field.

Test fit the new lower column sleeve to the old column before and after painting before installation. I had to grind then feather material on the column shaft including spreading the ears of the lower 2 bolt cover to get it to fit and " slide"

Clean / scrape the pitman and box shaft really well, the marks ARE THERE to line up the pitman.

Test fit your horn button with the wheel installed on the new column and fabricate as necessary before installing the column. I have as much time making my horn work as I have installing the mechanical portion of the system.

Loosely assemble the 4 lower box bolts ( 19mm) , the stiffner rod and align the upper column bracket before tightening ANY of these bolts.

1/8 cut across the backside of the knee bolster will allow it to flex and form around the new steer motor.


Overall it works great driving around town however, I purchased it to help at slow speeds in the rocks with these big tires. No matter where the potentiometer is set, the system stutters and has no power steering or very little felt when it is parked and running. Not was I was hoping for in the rocks. I have an Eticket sent in to Scott to see if they have run across this issue.

For those wanting a daily driver new truck feel, this IS the ticket.

[TechMOGogy]

Great tips!
Interesting about the low speed info as that is where these are supposed to shine and I have seen demos where cars/trucks are parked and the wheel(thus tires) turn with 1 finger!

[NEWFISHER]

Update on the slow speed operation and jittery feel.

I disconnected all connectors, battery cables, converter and pulled all fuses to allow the system to rest. I backed the nut off the box adjustment and snugged up the set screw ( it bad been on my to do list and had just a slight amount of play). Retested and seems good! I havent had a chance to test it on the same rocks as earlier but can tell it is different. Between my last post and as I type this, Scott called and left me his cell number to call back....FAST CUSTOMER SERVICE!!

Its possible that it was one or both of those above things and when I get back from the weekend I will teat it off road in some good stuff and report back. On the way home around town it is amazing how effortless it is. I may need to get back that gym membership now since Ive lost the Pinz workout.

[rmel]

The highest current demand will be when your slow and turning on obstacles.
Driving straight and true will be relatively low current demand on the 24/12V converter.
If you do still have a torque problem you may want to measure the voltage at the
terminal of the motor and make sure you don't have a significant voltage drop which
would effect the motor torque.

[NEWFISHER]

Good info. Im on a camping trip away from the pinz and will run the diagnostic checks when I get back next week. I phoned Scott back and he had me check it before I left. At an idle standing outside the rig, no power steer. I will check further next week. Its still a really nice feel while driving and great customer service!

[TechMOGogy]

Here is Scotts video
Looks like something must be not working correctly
https://youtu.be/EIBgKVeB55c

[Hotzenplotz]

Newfisher

Thanks for posting all the pics; i finished my installation today and positioned the electronics like you did, but I moved the water container to the passenger side
two questions remain:
*) how did you manage to position the wires so neatly ?i had troubles squeezing myself underneath the wheel, let alone work with both hands...
*) did you also fond the connector on the underside of the horn button way to big to fit into the column ? how did you solve that ?

the truck can be used by my daughter now , but the horn cannot be used yet..

[ExpeditionImports]

On the ones we have installed we have shortened the bottom connector of the horn button with a grinder. It's tight, but still enough meat for the set screw to hold the ground wire, and clear the column. This is an area that will be addressed in future units either by a different horn button, or clearancing the shaft.

Preference is a different horn button as we aren't much of a fan of the original. There is a great MB unit that appears to be a direct bolt in.

Cheers,

Scott

[NEWFISHER]

Newfisher

Thanks for posting all the pics; i finished my installation today and positioned the electronics like you did, but I moved the water container to the passenger side
two questions remain:
*) how did you manage to position the wires so neatly ?i had troubles squeezing myself underneath the wheel, let alone work with both hands...
*) did you also fond the connector on the underside of the horn button way to big to fit into the column ? how did you solve that ?

the truck can be used by my daughter now , but the horn cannot be used yet..

Good to hear!

I laid the harness out on the floor and roughly measured the area in which it was going to be placed in, running all the loom and then fitting it up in the truck. It takes a while to clean it up ,but looks better than the factory I think.

The horn was a real pain. I had to machine down the horn contact stud and drill the end of the column opening it up so the contact stud wouldn't touch the inner column.